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Let me begin that I don't support prophet muhammed and/or islam for that matter. This is just something that doesn't sit right with me or is very screwy to say the least.

I'm a White Christian type myself. Jesus Christ is Lord (obviously) for someone like myself to as well and I do not support / condone islam in anyway, shape and/or form except when it comes to Jesus Christ due to Jesus Christ being Lord or Jesus Christ is Lord, but this doesn't sit right with me nonetheless to call prophet muhammed a pedophile. We are literally calling ourselves and/or our ancestors for that matter pedophiles to say the least on this type of subject.


Europe - “It needs to be remembered that many Medieval widows were not old, Important heiresses were often married between the ages of 5 and 10 and might find themselves widowed while still in their teens.”

https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/09/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history/


America / United States - "We may add, although Mr. Aaron Macy Powell stated that only 4 states had the age of consent at 10, this is incorrect. He may not have been aware, but well over 30 States had the age of consent at 10. The following States had the age of consent at 10 in the 1800s:"

Delaware legal age of consent was 7 year olds. prophet muhammed slept with someone age 9 for that matter. "IN FOUR STATES THE AGE OF CONSENT IS FIXED AT THE SHOCKINGLY LOW AGE OF TEN YEARS, in four others at twelve, in three at thirteen, and so on, increasing, except in DELAWARE, WHERE THE ORIGINAL STATUTE PERTAINING TO THE CRIME OF RAPE IS STILL UNREPEALED, FIXING THE AGE AT SEVEN YEARS."

https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/09/13/the-age-of-consent-laws-in-america-1800s/


Great read - 1885 (Year 1885 is important in all of this for Americas / United States history on this type of stuff) it mostly / all changed for the most part in America and/or the United States to age 13-16.

http://www.historyandpolicy.org/policy-papers/papers/the-legacy-of-1885-girls-and-the-age-of-sexual-consent


Scroll down on this page and see all the ages back in 1880 with delaware being age 7 with the age of consent. Only state in America / United States back in 1880 that had an age of consent under the age of 10.

https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/09/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history/


Again I don't support or condone islam / prophet muhammed myself. I just find it rather odd / strange to say the least and/or if not wrong since it feels like I'm making fun of my white ancestors and/or white ancestry and calling them all pedophiles alone to say the least as well. I don't think they understood back then and I do think the year 1885 is important and anything under 13 at least is in the realm of pedophilia and 13/14 or older is sleeping with a minor.

It's a very / tricky / complicated subject to say the least. Again I don't think they understand that well back then with Delawares age of consent being age 7 and other states being age 10 to age 12 or so. The point of this is I just don't see a point to waste my time calling anyone a pedophile on this type of stuff.

Pedophilia is wrong (obviously). So I mean saying prophet muhammed is a pedophile you'd have to say most of the United States and/or America allowed pedophilia up until 1885 or so with minimum ages being changed to 13 - 16 and such. You'd have to say that since Delawares age of consent was age 7 that they allowed pedophilia up until 1885 as well as the other states with age of consent being age 10 to age 12 and so on plus other countries in the world are listed on there to as well.

Maybe call it all pedophilia if they are under the age of 13/14 and history got it wrong in most locations / most regions of the globe then. I prefer this myself for now at least that pedophilia was basically everywhere until the last 100-150 years or so. At least up until 1885 in America / United States to say the least until it was changed to age 13 or 16.

Age 13/14 being a cutoff point and anyone sleeping with someone younger than that would be a pedophile.

Trying to figure out this logic in my own head. So if I do / did ramble at times. What is everyone thoughts on this subject / topic?

Again this is heavily based on that I don't want to call my white European / white American / white ancestors pedophiles, but I mean it's true nonetheless and something not many people would ever want to talk about in their lifetime. if they slept with someone under the age of 13/14 or so.

This is a topic that is basically impossible to discuss for most people from what I've seen or very difficult to discuss at least.

Let me begin that I don't support prophet muhammed and/or islam for that matter. This is just something that doesn't sit right with me or is very screwy to say the least. I'm a White Christian type myself. Jesus Christ is Lord (obviously) for someone like myself to as well and I do not support / condone islam in anyway, shape and/or form except when it comes to Jesus Christ due to Jesus Christ being Lord or Jesus Christ is Lord, but this doesn't sit right with me nonetheless to call prophet muhammed a pedophile. We are literally calling ourselves and/or our ancestors for that matter pedophiles to say the least on this type of subject. ----- Europe - “It needs to be remembered that many Medieval widows were not old, Important heiresses were often married between the ages of 5 and 10 and might find themselves widowed while still in their teens.” https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/09/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history/ ----- America / United States - "We may add, although Mr. Aaron Macy Powell stated that only 4 states had the age of consent at 10, this is incorrect. He may not have been aware, but well over 30 States had the age of consent at 10. The following States had the age of consent at 10 in the 1800s:" Delaware legal age of consent was 7 year olds. prophet muhammed slept with someone age 9 for that matter. "IN FOUR STATES THE AGE OF CONSENT IS FIXED AT THE SHOCKINGLY LOW AGE OF TEN YEARS, in four others at twelve, in three at thirteen, and so on, increasing, except in DELAWARE, WHERE THE ORIGINAL STATUTE PERTAINING TO THE CRIME OF RAPE IS STILL UNREPEALED, FIXING THE AGE AT SEVEN YEARS." https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/09/13/the-age-of-consent-laws-in-america-1800s/ ----- Great read - 1885 (Year 1885 is important in all of this for Americas / United States history on this type of stuff) it mostly / all changed for the most part in America and/or the United States to age 13-16. http://www.historyandpolicy.org/policy-papers/papers/the-legacy-of-1885-girls-and-the-age-of-sexual-consent ----- Scroll down on this page and see all the ages back in 1880 with delaware being age 7 with the age of consent. Only state in America / United States back in 1880 that had an age of consent under the age of 10. https://discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/09/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history/ ----- Again I don't support or condone islam / prophet muhammed myself. I just find it rather odd / strange to say the least and/or if not wrong since it feels like I'm making fun of my white ancestors and/or white ancestry and calling them all pedophiles alone to say the least as well. I don't think they understood back then and I do think the year 1885 is important and anything under 13 at least is in the realm of pedophilia and 13/14 or older is sleeping with a minor. It's a very / tricky / complicated subject to say the least. Again I don't think they understand that well back then with Delawares age of consent being age 7 and other states being age 10 to age 12 or so. The point of this is I just don't see a point to waste my time calling anyone a pedophile on this type of stuff. Pedophilia is wrong (obviously). So I mean saying prophet muhammed is a pedophile you'd have to say most of the United States and/or America allowed pedophilia up until 1885 or so with minimum ages being changed to 13 - 16 and such. You'd have to say that since Delawares age of consent was age 7 that they allowed pedophilia up until 1885 as well as the other states with age of consent being age 10 to age 12 and so on plus other countries in the world are listed on there to as well. Maybe call it all pedophilia if they are under the age of 13/14 and history got it wrong in most locations / most regions of the globe then. I prefer this myself for now at least that pedophilia was basically everywhere until the last 100-150 years or so. At least up until 1885 in America / United States to say the least until it was changed to age 13 or 16. Age 13/14 being a cutoff point and anyone sleeping with someone younger than that would be a pedophile. Trying to figure out this logic in my own head. So if I do / did ramble at times. What is everyone thoughts on this subject / topic? Again this is heavily based on that I don't want to call my white European / white American / white ancestors pedophiles, but I mean it's true nonetheless and something not many people would ever want to talk about in their lifetime. if they slept with someone under the age of 13/14 or so. This is a topic that is basically impossible to discuss for most people from what I've seen or very difficult to discuss at least.

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[–] x0x7 6 points (+6|-0) (edited )

So the "age of concent" of 10 isn't really an age of concent. It's an age of culpability before civil court in which your actions can have some barring on judgments a court applies to you, in original common law.

That is if at 11 you do something sketchy the court can hold you accountable. But at 6 you are immune to the court, because you can only be punished for your agencied actions and at 6 you don't have agency. At 10 in common law it is considered that you do. That ended up carrying over to sexual things in time when no one was really thinking about that because the issue didn't really come up that much.

The feminists came in and tried to fix that issue and tried to bump up the age as far as they could. They in some cases aimed for 21. They managed to get to 18 in some states but not all by far. Not even most. But then those other states started conforming to other state's expectations, and we now have almost universal 18 age of concent.

I don't mean to come off as the wrong kind of guy but I think the feminists kind of jumped the shark a bit with 18. I say this mostly because of the people just over 18. I don't think the romeo and Juliet laws are far enough and don't account for months. I say this as someone who at 18 was dating a girl who was going to be 15 for three more months. Senior-sophmore. Thanks to my religious persuasions I didn't do anything stupid but I could have been a criminal just for dating a girl I knew when we were both kids in high school. Because of not accounting for months it makes a weird timing issue where one second you aren't a criminal if you date someone, so you do, and the next day you are. And now it's even tighter. It used to be three years, now in some states it's two, including mine. I legit know a kid in my area that just graduated that's a sex offender for having consensual sex with a junior. She later decided she didn't like him (he one night standed) and #metoo. They couldn't prove rape, though that was her allegation, and it was disproven by polygraph and shown that she was lying. He was still slapped with the age difference though. A senior and a junior we are talking about.

Nice post, sad story.

Common law was such a low age because in bygone days 1- the life expectancy was much shorter, who knew if she would live to be 16 or 17? And 2- there was no notion of "childhood". Children born into peasant farming families worked the fields or house as soon as they were able. Children in the cities worked in factories or roamed & stole from the streets (think the Artfull Dodger & his gang from Oliver Twist). For sure if some little 10 year old spit stole from my shop I'd want him punished as an adult, they need to learn that type of behavior is not accepted in our culture.