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[–] 3 pts

It's a good question, should the government have the ability to strip citizenship from people? Essentially, it's modern day banishment.

[–] 5 pts

should the government have the ability to strip citizenship from people?

If it was granted on false or fraudulent grounds, yes. So long as that individual retains the legal right to exist in one location (an alternate citizenship) to which they may be deported, then stripping citizenship is a permissible measure — essentially "Get out and don't come back!"

________________________ Also, "Timmy talks" is a great way to title a Tim Pool ramble.

[–] 3 pts

So long as that individual retains the legal right to exist in one location (an alternate citizenship)

I believe that's specifically called out in terms of international law or some such. Certainly came up here in the British news back when there was a fuss about various ISIS aligned Brits wanting to come back now that the whole medieval warlord experiment hasn't worked out.

IIRC, at least a couple did get shown the door specifically because they did still have some kind of legal claim to citizenship elsewhere, but I think the situation was less than clear and I'm not sure how it eventually resolved.

[–] 0 pt

If you travel to another country and join a fighting force there, whether it is currently the government or not, I would say you voluntarily renounced your old nationality permanently unless you got their permission first.

[–] 2 pts

False or fraudulent grounds is the only way I can see it ever working. Anything else is just tantamount to saying "you can't play here anymore, legally." It's like deporting illegals, if they want to come back, the law saying they can't is going to stop them.

[–] 2 pts

It's been done before. Look up Tomoya Kawakita. He was an American born to Japanese parents. He moved to Japan and WWII broke out he worked for the Japanese government using American POWs for manual labor.

When he returned to the US after WWII, he was recognized in public by a former POW who told the FBI. Kawakita was arrested, found guilty of treason, and sentenced to death. His sentence was later reduced to life in prison. Then in the 60s JFK allowed him to be released on the condition that he never return to the United States. He was flown to Japan where he quietly lived out the rest of his days. During his exile he did request permission to briefly return to the US so he could visit his dying parents, but the request was denied.

No, they should be more selective with granting citizenship to people that are clearly terrorist shitskins.

I see wisdom and greatness ahead for that man.

[–] 0 pt

I understand and partly share Tim's hesitancy. But for terrorism, or trying to help people get in illegally such as the politician who married her brother to cheat the immigration system, yes, out you go.

He also addresses police militarization, and there, too, it depends on why. If a city's authorities deliberately look the other way to let a terrorist group control neighborhoods (I'm looking at you, Portland and Berkeley), Trump should have sent the National Guard in rather than allow the thugs to win for even one week.