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Everything is working still when going back to 6.11.x kernel though so I guess I have to stay on that.

No way I will ever run one of those ever-green, cooler but less stable Linux distros. This already is an inconvenience.

Update: Issue fixed

Everything is working still when going back to 6.11.x kernel though so I guess I have to stay on that. No way I will ever run one of those ever-green, cooler but less stable Linux distros. This already is an inconvenience. Update: Issue fixed

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It's okay to stay on a working kernel for a while. I don't do it, and have had a kernel problem with Debian in the past. I'm happy for kernel development but as a user frequent kernel updates don't provide much additional value that I see.

Best alternative I've done is build your own, but I'm not doing that today. You could try to hold that version that works in a config but this all starts to become complicated when you are bucking dependency management.

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You could try to hold that version that works

I think that means I will not get security updates, if there are any, which might be a problem.

I think I've managed to stay at a more stable kernel now. Seems I was on something called HWE which download later kernels, that is now disabled I am on something called GA apparently.

Best alternative I've done is build your own, but I'm not doing that today.

I've never done that but I have looked at it. Doesn't sound too hard. Edit a list of config options, have the config all be distro defaults to begin with then just change some of the options then run some commands to build and install. Getting updates to work fast when new kernel versions are available seems to be harder, but that also seems to be possible with scripts applying my custom config fields to a new kernel. I will try that at some point, especially on servers since most kernels (ALL kernels??) seems to be very bloated an contain stuff to work with desktop which makes no sense to me (maybe there are reasons besides lazyness).

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I think that means I will not get security updates, if there are any, which might be a problem.

That is true.

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Running 6.8.0-63 on Ubuntu 24.04 right now. Only ever had problems with one update in the past, some AMD thing. Can't you go back to an earlier kernel using Grub?

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yes, issue fixed I hope. Also running 6.8.x now 👍

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A. The cooler but less table Distros tend to make it a lot easier to choose a kernel you like in the grub so you don't have this issue in the first place. which leads to...

B. Whenever possible, use a mainline LTS Kernel, or use a distro that has fixed point releases with an older but maintained kernel. 6.12 is the last LTS at the moment. Mint uses 6.8 but backports hardware drivers and security fixes.

Important to always remeber: In Linux, new does not mean good or stable. New means beta test 2.0.

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A. The cooler but less table Distros tend to make it a lot easier to choose a kernel you like in the grub so you don't have this issue in the first place. which leads to...

Maybe I'll get cool some day... Ok, I mostly want things to work automatically without any problems, a semi-n00b on Linux but working on it!! Switching from Ubuntu to Debian next time I install Linux (still n00by but less bloat already running Debian on all servers instead of Ubuntu).

B. Whenever possible, use a mainline LTS Kernel, or use a distro that has fixed point releases with an older but maintained kernel. 6.12 is the last LTS at the moment. Mint uses 6.8 but backports hardware drivers and security fixes.

Important to always remeber: In Linux, new does not mean good or stable. New means beta test 2.0.

Yes, I am not sure if I had explicitly enabled unstable kernels or if that is default in Ubuntu anyway I have just gone back farther to 6.8 which seems to be what Ubuntu stable linux kernel is right now.

or use a distro that has fixed point releases with an older but maintained kernel.

I though I was. Ubuntu 24 stable, but maybe I picked som dumb option in install or later. Anyway I think it's solved now.

More or less the exact commands I ran:

# Install stable kernel!!!
sudo apt update
sudo apt install linux-generic linux-headers-generic

# 2. Reboot to test stable kernel works then pick stable kernel in GRUB boot menu
sudo reboot

# 3. Remove unstable meta-packages
sudo apt remove linux-generic-hwe-24.04 linux-headers-generic-hwe-24.04 linux-image-generic-hwe-24.04
sudo apt autoremove

# 4. Install nvidia DKMS to build modules for stable kernel  
sudo apt install nvidia-dkms-570

# 5. Then clean up/remove unused unstable kernels etc but I dont remember exactly which commands I used

# 6. Reboot again
sudo reboot

prolly ran sudo update-grub at some point after removing old kernels, though that might be automatic and not even needed.

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Ubuntu base, by default, is a rolling release. Their LTS release is what you want if you want stability. If you go to their download page, you'll see the ISO listed as the LTS release. Alternatively, I'd recommend Linux Mint because it works way better than Ubuntu does for a lot of reasons but uses the same base. Another good distro which might be a good fit for you is Fedora. It uses newer packages, but prioritizes stability. It also has a bit of a learning curve which will help ease you into the more complex linux concepts.

I almost never recommend base Ubuntu anymore. They haven't been good in like 15 years.

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Thanks for your tips!

Fedora. It uses newer packages, but prioritizes stability. It also has a bit of a learning curve which will help ease you into the more complex linux concepts.

Good point. I might look at it. Do you know how it is in terms of bloatedness? Say I want one distro everywhere is Fedora good for servers too you think? I mean I guess there is only one way to truly find out and that is to test it.