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No phone, no bank

We need to say NO to any service that is tied to a working cellphone

No phone, no bank We need to say NO to any service that is tied to a working cellphone

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Yes. Please try that here in the USA. I’ll make do. Plus, there will then be a clear distinct line who the enemy are. Underground markets will develop, and work-arounds will pop up.

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Telecom carriers is a centralized stuff, there is no "underground market"

Computers are programmed to do and will do exactly that

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Yes. But I’m talking about “underground” markets of economy outside of telecom. I and many others will do just fine without cell phones, internet, electricity, running water, etc. I welcome the collapse. I won’t shed a single tear for those who are not prepared, and whom willingly accept control over their every move.

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I am arguing that it is simpler + less painful to avoid the problem than to solve it once you have it

But you may disagree

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Cellphone and bank are merely convenient.

Public wifi and a vpn back to server is more then enough.

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What public wifi ?

You really believe that there will be ANY public wifi ?

No, it is not possible that you just believe it....

Also, how are you going to buy ANY server if you will not have a bank account ?

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There is currently public wifi at lots of places. McDonald’s, Tim Hortons, hotels, Starbucks, rec. centres, your moms house. All OVER!

Sorry my keyboard had a stroke like yours.

Servers at my house. ISP is a different story. Can leach on someone else’s if needed. Only need one port.

Plus what better reason to improve on mesh networks.

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LOL I will just stop using a cellphone. My company cannot function without me so I could request payment in Gold bullion or Bitcoin and they wouldn't be able to do anything to stop me.

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Yeah, sure...... that will be fun to see

Sadly, I will not hear from you, you will be cut out from the network

Unless we do something about it, before it happens

Have a nice time

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I can't wait to see the energy company scrambling when their guy doesn't show up to work because he won't accept payment in Digital Currencies. Bet your ass they will be scrambling. Your empty threats mean nothing lol. I know what value I present to the company. Some people are literally irreplaceable. IF you dont feel that you are, its probably because you aren't and you should work to change that.

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Look, no need to get puffy, we just have to live long enough to see it

Have a nice day

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Hold money in the bank, and the bank becomes the custodian and makes all the rules. Keep all your cash at home and the police assume your a drug dealer and seize it. We have a long way to go to get to the right solution

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you are seeing the issue....

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This is already happening with banks that require 2fa to login. In my province all banks are making this a requirement so if you have no phone or internet connection you can't access you bank.

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If you do not agree with the "procedure", please try to share your motivations with friends and see if it is possible to get enough people onboard to reverse it to a token based 2fa