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cliff notes from the article:

"A leaky vaccine is one that keeps a microbe from doing serious harm to its host, but doesn’t stop the disease from replicating and spreading to another individual.

The scientists now believe that this vaccine has helped this chicken virus become uniquely virulent.

The hottest strains killed every unvaccinated bird within 10 days, and the team noticed that barely any virus was shed from the feathers of the chickens during that time. (The virus spreads via contaminated dust in chicken coops). In contrast, vaccination extended the lifespan of birds exposed to the hottest strains, with 80 percent living longer than two months. But the vaccinated chickens were transmitting the virus, shedding 10,000 times more virus than an unvaccinated bird.

“Previously, a hot strain was so nasty, it wiped itself out. Now, you keep its host alive with a vaccine, then it can transmit and spread in the world,” Read said. “So it’s got an evolutionary future, which it didn’t have before.”"

cliff notes from the article: "A leaky vaccine is one that keeps a microbe from doing serious harm to its host, but doesn’t stop the disease from replicating and spreading to another individual. The scientists now believe that this vaccine has helped this chicken virus become uniquely virulent. The hottest strains killed every unvaccinated bird within 10 days, and the team noticed that barely any virus was shed from the feathers of the chickens during that time. (The virus spreads via contaminated dust in chicken coops). In contrast, vaccination extended the lifespan of birds exposed to the hottest strains, with 80 percent living longer than two months. But the vaccinated chickens were transmitting the virus, shedding 10,000 times more virus than an unvaccinated bird. “Previously, a hot strain was so nasty, it wiped itself out. Now, you keep its host alive with a vaccine, then it can transmit and spread in the world,” Read said. “So it’s got an evolutionary future, which it didn’t have before.”"

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The vaxxed are the variant factories. Not the unvaxxed.

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Letting the weak die is supposed to happen

Natural selection in this case is selecting people that are sheep.

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This happened with tuberculosis in immune compromised gay people kept alive with HIV drugs.

TB festered in their bodies without being wiped out by their bad immune system or the host person killed. This created many more variants that were more lethal and have spread to the general population.

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This applies to a lot of things where damaging parasites are involved.

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It should be obvious at this point that the vaccine is pushing the evolution of the coronavirus. Will vaccinated or unvaccinated people be more vulnerable to the future strains? Who the fuck knows, nature is unpredictable.

But this vax in particular (mRNA, viral vector) is only coding for one protein on the virus. That is a very narrow immunity that the virus will be able to “out evolve” faster than a natural broad immunity to the complete virus. The more people get the spike protein vaccines, the faster that part of the virus will evolve, favoring spike protein mutations.

Weve probably all heard of ADE by now, in which some of these variants coule become more deadly to vaccinated people because of immunity!

But I think that its almost certain that these vaccines are causing a leaky vax scenario and here’s why: spike protein shedding from vaxxed to unvaxxed people. Two doses of the vax pretty strongly immunized healthy people who get it. But they are inadvertantly weakly immunizing 2 or 3 household members of vaccine recipients who inhale significant quantities of the spike protein and develop mild immunity. This is the perfect scenario for vaccine resistant strains to replicate and spread.

The so called delta strain is killing high numbers of vaccinated individuals. This is just what you would expect — theyve created a new bug. They are so fucking shit headed. Either that or they just dont care. Have these cunts heard of evolution?

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Your last paragraph says it. They don't care in fact this was designed to cause pain, sickness and death. The vax is designed to kill.

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You gotta prove that the original strain existed before you suggest others might come into being.

The "delta variant" seems to be an excuse used when the vax doesn't work as advertised. The idea that nature is going to evolve a deadly virus is anti-evolutionary and there really is no scientific basis for that concern. We always go back to the Spanish Flu that killed lots of people before antibiotics, antiviral, and other medicine was known. Hell, even before running water and concepts like disinfection and cleanliness standards. It isn't likely that the Spanish Flu would have been nearly as deadly today.

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You gotta prove that the original strain existed before you suggest others might come into being.

Ive had this conversation over and over with folks around here. Its been proven to exist as much as any virus has been proven to exist.

If you understand the methods that are used to observe and identify viruses, please tell me which ones have been used on a virus like influenza that haven’t been used on sars cov 2? You probably don’t know how a virus is “proven” to exist.

The idea that nature is going to evolve a deadly virus is anti-evolutionary

Not true. Viruses and bacteria are predators. They don’t care if they kill you or not. If they can spread sufficiently to other organisms for the 20 days it takes you to die, then they’ll just as soon kill you as not.

BTW this virus was engineered. It is naturally evolving now but it was artificially created from copy and pastes from multiple viruses and its pupose was probably a bioweapon. The PLA and the US DOD have been funding most of this sort of gain of function work.

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Ok.

  1. Yes. It is very likely that all "virus" diseases are bullshit, but this covid 19 has not been isolated and uses only a reactive test to suggest virus may be present. They have clearly said that a "variant" is established when pockets of a specific location are being infected at a higher rate. Pure speculation, nothing proven.

  2. While the virus, which is not a predator, or bacteria do not care if they kill you or not, the evolutionary trend, as another current "hot" article about chicken vaxxes explains, is to be easily transmissible but not deadly. The evolutionarily tend is to keep the host alive and healthy enough to go about daily life and spread the virus, or bacteria, to others as widely as possible. The "strongest" in this case of "only the strongest survive" is about transmissiblity and ease of infection to continue the strain.

Now, if covid 19 does exist, it was obviously created in a lab, which is why it can be both deadly and easily transmissible, but like every other virus that they've created in the lab, bird flu for example, evolution makes that deadly lab created illness less deadly, not more.

And, you ignore the part about the lack of any clear example of a virus naturally becoming more deadly. The media has to go back to the Spanish Flu to point at a "very deadly" flu outbreak. They have to go back to a time when we didn't even have running water, let alone modern medicine, to point to a deadly outbreak of naturally occurring virus. Why do you think that is? Luck?

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HiThere is no such thing as mild immunity.

Your immune system recognizes a new foreign substance and then codes for production of white blood cells to kill it and those instructions are stored in memory t cells until the foreign invader is encountered again at which time huge numbers of new fighting white blood cells against it are produced using the stored information.

Once you develop that memory t cell you have immunity.

Immunity is not the presence of masses of white blood cells. It is the stored coded response instructions in the memory t cells.

Having massive numbers of white blood cells without a foreigner invader present is bad.

The presence and speed of production of white blood cells is called immune response... Not immunity. Immune response only has to be faster than the initial number of foreign exposures and the rate of replication of the foreign organism in your body.

Once you have the coded memory tcell your rate of immune response is usually faster than all but the most deadly pathogens and those are handled with things like antibiotics.

What a normal vaccine would do it expose the body to a weak version of the foreign body which would trigger the memory tell to be created so the body would fight quickly against the actual strong version of the foreign body if it was encountered.

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spike protein shedding from vaxxed to unvaxxed people

I'm still not convinced this happens. The symptoms people have been getting around the GMOs are just as well explained by shedding of old viruses their fucked up immune systems are no longer suppressing.

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They care about achieving thier goal of killing off at least 30% of us.

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We dont have to oblige them.

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Viruses exist to fix over population but humans are assholes who are constantly at odds with nature instead of doing what we should be doing and dying

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Something that stands out. The article says only unvaxxed chickens get the virus. If I have a farm why would I leave chickens unvaxxed? So I'm vaximg all my chickens then how am I incurring 2 billion in annual losses if only unvaxxed chickens are dying?

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Psy op. See it happened to birds so when fauxie says it's happening to humans next year, he can point to this and say see we have already seen this in other animals.