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If you ask questions like "Did [Country X] do [Y]?" you are brainwashed.

Countries don't do things. Groups controlling countries do things, and there are individuals controlling those groups. You should be asking about the individuals.

It was Navy Seals who blew it up. The decision came from jewish banking families telling their political puppets what to do.

[–] 3 pts

According to sources familiar with the matter, Chervinsky acted as the coordinator of the Nord Stream operation. He managed logistics and support for a six-person team that used false identities to rent a sailboat and employed deep-sea diving equipment to place explosive charges on the gas pipeline.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

There is zero percent chance of this being true. More likely is was US Navy Seals with the Norwegian Navy are the most likely perpetrators. The Ukrainian military is so badly ran they couldn't coordinate paying a $3 whore.

[–] 2 pts

So now that USA is throwing Uke's under the bus, can we stop that paying them billions?

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Turns out that whore cost a lot more than $3.

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Chervinsky’s role highlights the complex dynamics and internal rivalries within Ukraine’s wartime government. The intelligence and military establishment often clashes with the political leadership in Kyiv.

It appears that the operation was designed to keep Zelensky uninformed, with key planning and execution elements directed by Zaluzhny. Official intelligence reporting suggests that Zelensky was unaware of the operation.

Ukraine is losing, as this is a clear signal that Ukraine will probably surrender soon. Ukraine is cleaning house and will serve as a patsy for the US, so they suggest their military and spooks were rogue all along, therefore the sovereign hands are impeccably clean. So they do the 'right thing' and oust a random named Chervinsky. How convenient.

Chervinsky has accused Zelensky’s close adviser, Andriy Yermak, of spying for Russia and criticized the administration’s handling of the country’s preparedness for Russia’s invasion.

How convenient. The person who will take the fall also happened to be a critic of Zelensky? What are the odds?

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Whoever decided to do it, it was almost certainly US military forces that placed the explosives.

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Ukes gonna be left holding the bag, US strategy at the outset was to make the conflict irreconcilable and leave russia holding a radically anti russian territory with resistance fighters, essentially they wanted to make ukraine another afghanistan and use it to sink the russian economy.

Budget department checked the math and prolonging the conflict beyond this point would destroy support for the NATO narrative in ukraine even among those intended to become s thorn in Russia's side.

Putin's hand is better now than the outset of the war and it's just gonna get better, he can take ukraine and demolish the NATO narrative and dominate resistance fighters politically for prolonging an already painful defeat, and he gets better ports and can repair trade a bit or he can just keep the territory he has and make ukraine cling to the EU and drag them down, political support for ukraine will be hard to kill after laying it on so thick, popular vote would pull ukraine into NATO and the EU, with the anti NATO narrative he could push, ukraine might come to resent their allies for pressing them into a suicidal conflict only to be displaced by all the niggers in europe and the middle east.