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(not actually 2 nanometer technology)

what is it?

I'm too lazy to dig further into it

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Very small feature sizes, just not 2 nanometers, but stacked in the third dimension to be "equivalent". It's still not equivalent. All that said what they actually did is an impressive feat. CPU designers are on the bleeding edge of physics.

I was wondering what they mean by "nanosheet technology"

Thanks for the explanation

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And I'll bet that the manufacturing plants for these chips will only be built overseas.

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Well, it's called International Business Machines, not American Business Machines. That said, does IBM make anything, any more? Or are they outsourcing all manufacturing like pretty much everyone else.

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This might interest you:

https://youtu.be/CkNn98WE5_k

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Fairly interesting, although I think I knew most of that already. Intel is the only chip manufacturer that does some fabrication in the US -- I knew that. I was wondering whether IBM manufactured any products within the corporation, as opposed to sending out for assembly then branding the products. The could be in the US or elsewhere. If IBM is owning the factory I would consider it in house.

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We didn't invest in it here, investment went into crashing the housing market when the market for chips started to get really hot.

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Ha ha ha ha. Tell me more about wonderful IBM company so I can buy your stock! 2nm, oh BOY!

LOLOLOLOL

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Oh? Where did they build it?

Raise tariffs if you want jobs here.

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Last guy tried that, we had to bail out farmers. As a service economy that's a war we can't win. We have to incentivize production here some other way. I'm not sure how or what you do to make that happen. But we have already seen what a tariff war gets us.

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I call bullshit.

Nah, I'm sure its real. A lot of modern chip technology existed ~10-15 years before it went into consumer devices. The critical distinction is they are made experimentally in a lab in very limited amounts, versus large scale manufacturing many orders of magnitude larger. Engineering the processes and custom machines to make it both commercially viable and made in gigantic quantities is a massive engineering task.

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Good luck trying to reverse engineer any 2nm chip. Think of all the firmware and hardware functions that could be hidden inside a incomprehensibly tiny space. There’s definitely going to be more back doors in chips than ever now.