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[–] [deleted] • 13 pts

The short version is that your device has an embedded secure module containing a unique secret sealed by your manufacturer. The security module is capable of proving it owns such a secret without revealing it.

So they are replacing a system to prove you are a human with one proving which human you are.

[–] • 6 pts

Good times. Wait until this is on the blockchain and embedded in your vaccine-chip.

[–] • 0 pt

I mean, it doesn't have to work that way. How do you know that it does?

[–] • 7 pts (edited )

This is a terrible thing.

(((Cloudflare))) is going to create a permission system for the Internet whereby you need a key to prove that you have permission to access pages. This is the beginning of the actual corporatization of Internet access controls.

The best part about this is that Cloudflare performed their own problem reaction solution, twice. The first (all of this is just purely opinion, nothing more...) was them allegedly attacking popular websites so that they'd sign up for Cloudflare. The next was ruining the UX of visiting these already-shit websites by adding captchas and waiting pages so that people would be OK with handing them the keys (literally) to the Internet.

[–] • 2 pts

It could be even more subtle, give you different sites depending on who you are, or make the site flaky if you're an undesired person.

[–] • 2 pts

Or punish sites for serving information to you since you're an enemy of the people.

[–] • 1 pt

Charge them a higher rate.

[–] • 1 pt

So captchas work like the antigen tests, only as a step towards submitting to the real control mechanism.

[–] • 4 pts

CAPTCHAs also assume that website owners want to allow relatively anonymous traffic

The truth comes out. Mozilla has already hijacked DNS requests from users who don't know better and directed them to Cloudfare. Now with this they will attempt to end anonymity on the internet and expand Silicon Valley's powers of censorship.

[–] • 2 pts

There is no way in hell I'm going to plug in a YubiKey just to get an ordinary website to load.

[–] • 2 pts

When I see products like this it sort of makes me mad

I read about how around the beginning of the internet, Intel wanted to put a unique ID into the CPU that would allow personal identification for things like shopping and YEAH EXACTLY THIS KIND OF FUNCTION

and people lost their minds

[–] • 0 pt

CAPTCHA bullshit is literally training car driving AI right now...

[–] • 0 pt

Seems the point is merely to uniquely identify a system not to differentiate between human and computer.

[–] • 0 pt

Captchas were easy until jewgle's "take multiple tests in a row", and AI guided selection bullshit with tiny low quality photos.

[–] • 0 pt

And requires everyone carries around individually attributable authentication cards. At least with SMS you can claim someone hacked your phone

[–] • 0 pt

They don´t support OnlyKey which is the open source alternative to Yubikey.

[–] • 0 pt

This 'secret', is it unique to the device, I wonder, and unique to manufacturer? This 'secret' is likely a unique identifier, not as secure as a CAPTCHA. Seems like a way to identify the user. Instead, provide a system to SOLVE THE CAPTCHA, or secure system resources locally. Otherwise, fuhgetaboutit

[–] • 1 pt

It will be embedded in your chip in your body.

[–] • 0 pt

Yea, local one-of proof of work like VITE. You can still automate but spam gets expensive.