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There has been upwards of 15 queries per second from bots. There is just no way to deal with that sort of traffic, barely even to reject it.

There are plenty of ways to deal with it. That's why Poal doesn't use a 3rd party jew-owned data-mining service like Cloudflare.

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Do you think we have any bots?

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Yeah, you.

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Well, fuck you, the TOS don't explicitly ban users who are of artificially intelligent heritage.

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Send them to Soapboxbanhammer?

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There is also motivation to ignore the bot traffic in order to increase ad rev.

Someone should start a bot auditing service.

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Someone should start a bot auditing service.

and sell it to competitors of major platforms.

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Any adveriser paying social media advertisement invoices would be inteterested.

I'm sure its something they may want to be contract contingent.

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it drives further centralization of any sort of service that offers communication or interactivity,

That's the point. Who do you think has the resources to build and run bot nets?

Anti virus software companies also produce viruses. That's the game.

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Anti virus software companies also produce viruses. That's the game.

I'd argue that if AV software companies do that, they also probably produce the botnets that they lease out to major governments.

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Sadly the bias at the end for Web3 made me stop caring what they had to say.

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Interested to know how it would play out. The author has a point, that we shouldn't be submitting a tx for every search query or visit to a website, and it would slow down surfing the web to a crawl (2-10 seconds to verify the tx with current chains, opposed to milliseconds with direct communication to the server). And even if it was a random check (once every 10-100 queries) bots would still be able to mass produce wallets with dust in them and proceed as if nothing happened.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just interested in knowing how you'd see it play out?

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He is hosting in his home which is fine. I personally think web3 is the way. Not everything in web3 has to be about charging the end user. He should check out presearch. Users get pre to search and pre is used to pay for ads. His home search would be better distributed web3 and not run just in his basement. Plus like AOU has said their are other ways to stop the bots.

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The author has a point, that we shouldn't be submitting a tx for every search query or visit to a website, and it would slow down surfing the web to a crawl (2-10 seconds to verify the tx with current chains, opposed to milliseconds with direct communication to the server).

IMO the idea would be to make a chain that is low cost and extremely fast specifically for this problem rather than using existing chains that can't cope with the speed requirements or demand.

I think if there's some back and forth (e.g., if you are providing value to a website, it makes it cost less to verify you) and that would also help screw over bot traffic. But how to design and implement it is of course an interesting and probably extremely difficult problem.

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We've already seen dust-attacks on several chains, that completely overload the nodes because the chain had low cost txs fees. Even if we were to implement a trust system, where your first engagement with a site costs 1 token, next 0.5 tokens, next 0.25, etc. I don't think it would solve the bot problem. Bots can get wicked complicated and do things we have not even dreamed of yet. I run bots on a few on crypto faucets and other sites using BrowserAutomationStudio - anything a human can do, BAS can do as well, and there is very little you can do to detect them.

if you are providing value to a website, it makes it cost less to verify you

That could work on some sites, sure. But with stuff like GPT-3 (and soon 4/5), the sites that rely on text/image content will be overrun, even with web3 verification/reputation.

Not trying to be a downer - I'm just having a really hard time seeing how we can possibly beat the bots with web3 (would love if we could and I was proven wrong).

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Segregate the white man's internet.

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This all sounds like a good excuse to launch skynet.