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"temporarily"

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TSMC doesn't fuck around with divershitty quota.

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There's nothing more permanent than a temporary program.

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They mean they can't find Americans that will work for the same wages as bug people.

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That could be it, but I believe that the skilled people they are looking for are already retired and the new generation is unfit/unqualified because they've wasted their time with gender studies.

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Yes. The pool of people with those skills are already working in a job at the few remaining foundries and aren't going to leave for sub-par wages.

The only other foundry I can think of in recent memory was the WE/ATT/Lucent plants, and those are so long gone those people are dead or retired.

TSMC is most likely unwilling to train people, so they just complain instead. They want 110% immediately and they can't get it because it doesn't exist.

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That's probably true. In the 90s I worked for a company that made a specialized pump used in semiconductor fabs. I traveled to most of the US, South Korea, and Italian fabs installing and training maintenance techs. I was in my 40s then, and most of the techs I dealt with were about the same age or just a little younger.

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jew-run corporations (mostly owned by Vanguard/BlackRock) killed plenty of industries in White countries by delocalizing to Asia so they could get more shekels.

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Not sure what to believe…

Is it that they can’t find skilled workers (willing to work for fractions of livable wages), or is it that they’ve truly dumbed down this generation so much so that truly skilled labor is actually getting hard to find?

Probably a combination of both….

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What TSMC is paying isn't good for the Phoenix area. It would be OK for the Columbus-Newark area where the Ohio Intel plant is supposed to be built, but not what I would consider attractive for the level of skill they're going to want.

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Sounds about right.

TIME TO BRING IN THE BROWNIES!!

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Plenty of them in downtown phx

Columbus? I thought the Intel plant was going to be on the other side, between Cincinnati and Indianapolis?

I'm not sure what they're paying, but certainly Intel is going to attract the best industrial engineers just due to name recognition (and the fact that Ohio still has legitimate elections .. and that freezing snow is better to a lot of people than death weather summer).

...but we really need both and them some. More competition in high density silicon manufacturing is always a good thing. Finding people who have the background to work in these factories and move to the middle of nowhere for the payout is another issue entirely.

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No, it's in the New Albangme area, which is between NE Columbus and Newark on Ohio 161.

Intel isn't in good shape right now, and they've already said they're only going to manufacture if demand requires it. I suspect they'll be like Honda, they'll have 2-300 core people that actually work on the production floor and 3000 temps - if they actually start running.

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Skilled workers - well the us gov shut down most if not all the fabs, so other than Intel, what's around ?

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I suppose that’s another angle of the story. I went more towards the fact that we’ve imported enough low in browns to now make up 40% of our country. The schools have been dumbed down to accommodate.

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The problem here is that it looks like TSMC got conned into believing that Arizona has enough population density that justifies building a manufacturing plant there.

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And they most certainly got offered a massive tax cut deal.

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TSMC, Samsung, Texas Instruments, Intel are all constructing US Semiconductor Fabs right now. Worldwide Economic Recession, Materials, Supply Chain, Skilled Fab Construction Crews, and an Adept Skilled Workforce are all integers that are slowing the intended timeline resolution of these varied equations. C.H.I.P.S. Act cash and the best laid plans only go so far when met with these realities.

how about they pay construction workers more

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I don’t think that’s where their problem is.

A semiconductor fab needs special expertise to build ESD and dust-free rooms and install and setup all these high-tech equipments.