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We are allowing accounts above level 6 to look at which accounts vote on posts and how they vote. Our intention with this feature is to provide greater transparency on the site. We want to provide as much transparency as possible on poal. However allowing brand new accounts that haven't participated access to this feature would probably be abused. We may adjust the level in the future. However for now this is a test case to see how it helps with the brigading problems we have had over the past few weeks.

Someone noticing they are constantly getting downvoted by same accounts can report them to admins' PM, in which case we will review the situation and act accordingly, and as usual, those actions will be documented in and the site logs.

Thanks to for all his hard work on poal.co

Sincerely Boobs2.

EDIT: We have modified the feature to just show downvoters account names. After discussing it at length with the community this seems like a better option.

We are allowing accounts above level 6 to look at which accounts vote on posts and how they vote. Our intention with this feature is to provide greater transparency on the site. We want to provide as much transparency as possible on poal. However allowing brand new accounts that haven't participated access to this feature would probably be abused. We may adjust the level in the future. However for now this is a test case to see how it helps with the brigading problems we have had over the past few weeks. Someone noticing they are constantly getting downvoted by same accounts can report them to admins' PM, in which case we will review the situation and act accordingly, and as usual, those actions will be documented in /s/sitebans and the site logs. Thanks to @AOU for all his hard work on poal.co Sincerely Boobs2. EDIT: We have modified the feature to just show downvoters account names. After discussing it at length with the community this seems like a better option.

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Yeah those are fair considerations.

I really like the solution you arrived at, it leverages the downsides of the original approach you described to an upside.

Transparent voting makes people less likely to vote esp on controversial content.

Discouraging downvotes is generally a good thing.

On nab, the current approach to voting all follows from the goal of a lack of central authority. This compounds the anonymity issue you describe. But in my system, voting multiple times is a natural consequence of the approach and not taboo which I think should help equalize the effects some what, and voting power is strongly limited.

My hope is that people will eventually come to realize they are better off focusing their energies on their own contributions rather than silencing others through downvotes.

But another interesting consequence of being distributed is that any peer could ignore the existing vote structure and do their own thing, even if it requires central authority and secrecy.

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Well being as I like you and your system, I'm am clearly of the opinion a different approach is needed as well but I like yours too. I wish you well when and if you have to deal with the kind of issues we have been having, good luck, no matter what choice you make it won't make everyone happy even making no choice will not make everyone happy, such is the life of someone in a position of any kind of power. I did my best to try and do what is right. So again good luck. Join us on chat.poal.co sometime if you feel like it, I'd love to be able to discuss ideas with you in a more live fashion some time. Theres a few of us over there, it asks for an email address to register but its a VPS I control just put in utter bullshit if you decide to join us.

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I’m not convinced my approach to voting is the right one, it’s good enough to meet my main goals.

I think I registered on there a while back if it’s the rocketchat I may hop back on sometime. Love chatting about this sort of thing because a goal of mine is to enable these sorts of strategies for different notabug peers as I build out moderation tools.

such is the life of someone in a position of any kind of power

Which is why in developing nab my goal is to reduce or eliminate such power or at least make it much more opt in. I shouldn’t be able to fuck things up.

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it is rocket chat for now it would be changed if it wasn't for my move, although its much more poal themed now. just DM me if you get on there.

You are a smarter man than me. I wouldn't even know how to create a system like notabug. I do think however as the original developer you will probably always have the ability to exert some kind of control of the platform and if it gets huge that temptation would be pretty big. So keep that in mind. Maybe when you are happy with how it works and are convinced there are no more major bugs try to find a way to lock yourself out of any instance that isn't run by you.