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I'm referring to gods, demons, clockwork elves, or any other supernatural entities. Even just a great good and/or a great evil.

If you were advancing the argument that these things move through people and influence the world, what would you point to as evidence?

I'm referring to gods, demons, clockwork elves, or any other supernatural entities. Even just a great good and/or a great evil. If you were advancing the argument that these things move through people and influence the world, what would you point to as evidence?

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Lots of things I don't understand keep happening. You're welcome for my most brilliant argument.

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What are some examples?

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Here are five:

  1. You can't electrify water because that's dangerous, but the sink still makes water flow.

  2. Why is it the fat guy in a sitcom has an attractive wife? She usually hates him so is he rich?

  3. Why can't I laugh at the blind people at in the McDonalds parking lot? I thought that was part of the service.

  4. Why does cat food not make my hair shiny?

  5. Why is the Enlightenment seen as the pinnacle of Western Civilization when it clearly has nothing to do with the material progress we've made and has destroyed our traditional conceptions of freedom, virtue, and other values.

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As for number four, that just means that you did not rub the cat food into your hair vigorously and/or frequently enough.

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Why is the Enlightenment seen as the pinnacle of Western Civilization when it clearly has nothing to do with the material progress we've made and has destroyed our traditional conceptions of freedom, virtue, and other values.

This is a good one that I've recently been delving into. Consider the timing of the reformation and the enlightenment. They call this time period "the scientific revolution." Also consider that the Catholic church (I'm not talking Christianity here) was in reality one-world ruled, despotic, communism. Once this rule was broken all these discoveries and paradigm shifts happened.

This kind of paradigm shift has happened many times in science and culture in our history. So, it's more likely (and and adequate) to explain the Enlightenment as a blip in time among many blips in time, and that there was no "evolution of man" for this process or that we're any different physically that humans on the planet 20,000 years ago.

I agree with you that our concept of freedom and virtue are perverted. These are fundamental natural orders that have been subverted with the concept of money and slow drip of dopamine. We can achieve these things in a more pure way when people are awakened to this natural order.

It will require another paradigm shift to do it though.