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My government is corrupt and hasn't represented me or my family at any part in my life. How do I stop funding my demise without going to jail or paying even more through fines and lawyers?

My government is corrupt and hasn't represented me or my family at any part in my life. How do I stop funding my demise without going to jail or paying even more through fines and lawyers?

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[+] [deleted] 76 pts
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Stop working. Get on welfare and every other support you can figure out. Then work for cash, like a painter or landscaping.

[–] [deleted] 15 pts

I've been telling friends this for years, time to swallow your pride and beat them at their own game. overload the welfare system

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Aw, you guys are cute.

money printing machine goes bbbbrrrrrrrrrrrr

They'll just keep owing more and more interest and placing it on us.

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They'll just keep owing more and more interest and placing it on us.

The debt will NEVER be paid off, which is part of their scheme. It's simple math.

The end goal for the central bank is to usurp America's power (via the fiat, petro-dollar) and impose a new global, digital currency that will be tracked.

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So, behave like a Democrat.

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Don't keep your wealth in dollars. A large portion of government revenue is inflation, which is a tax on the dollar. If you have a lot of cash, spend it on something (preferably something that generates income, or is of lasting value).

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

arable land

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Bullets and Festools.

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Figures there would be a run on festools before I could afford them.

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You gather enough armed, like-minded people that you can't be easily memory holed.

[–] [deleted] 5 pts

And then when the cops come, don't run. They'll just shoot you in the back like Lavoy Finicum.

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Yeah others have said it already, but you gotta swallow your pride and just start scamming the government for all you can get. The more of us who do it, the faster it collapses as well.

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I'm currently working on that. I am selling all my properties and moving out of the urban area I live in. Notice almost all our problems are in urban areas it is the only way scum can become rich and powerful and live off others while destroying them... Sadly selling my properties will give money to the evil fucks but not much I can do about that. I'm just working on checking out mainly and not supporting this country any longer its the reverse hippy movment get to small country towns have kids have friends and neighbors and pay as little in taxes as possible. Don't fly or travel as much don't dontourist shit go to things that support your values supporting cities in anyways is wrong

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Start a charity and be tax exempt.

Like a church, for your new religion.

L. Ron Hubbard was smarter than he looked.

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Start by moving to a state where you won't also get screwed by local and state taxes. Texas and Florida are looking really appealing right now.

They're also looking good to every locked-down state in the country. They're about to get flooded with liberals. So now where?

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Never thought I would want to move to FL, but I cant stand these stupid fucking lockdowns

too many nogs...lived there for 3 years and hurricanes, snakes, mosquitoes and wild hogs

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avoiding taxes in the first place

  • if you get paid with a w-2, there's not much you can do as far as exepsnses go
  • if you get paid with a 1099-MISC (1099-NEC this year), you can be very generous with your expenses when you file a sch C (lots of business miles, lots of advertising expenses (never donate, always "donate" via paying them for an advertisement), lots of supply costs, cell phone costs)
  • you can run a farm for many years with a loss. in most jurisdictions, a farm is any ag activity that generates $1k+ per year in gross income. this means you can spend $1000 growing hay, sell $1000 of hay (or chickens or goats or w/e. just dont pretend horses are a farm), and boom you're a farm. you can then get a bunch of juicy local ag exemptions and have a loss on your farm for your federal taxes
  • you can run a business for ~3 years without ever making money. rack of up tons of expenses & mileage, but make sure you follow all the regs. such as keeping records and having a reasonable business plan in writing in case uncle sam comes

getting money from the government

  • if you're a single adult male, you're mostly SOL
  • if you're married with kids, then get divorced. single moms with kids get paid just to exist and paid handsomely. doubly so if they work a little bit. it's possible for a single woman with 3 kids who runs a household to get paid over $15,000 every year in tax refunds via child tax credit and earned income credit.
  • if you choose to leave your wife and kids this way, make sure you have a different address you reside in (perhaps your parent's house) and for her to pay all of the bills from an account that she owns herself. everything that supports the household and the kids needs to come from her. that said, there are no rules about you not being allowed to spend the nights with your ex and chill with the kids or give them money/gifts.
  • if you are found to have done this fraudulently then the penalty is you don't get gibs for a few years and have to pay back a portion of the gibs.
  • you get paid by the govt in some sense to put money into retirement. don't play the stock market like a WSB retard, just dump extra cash into either a work retirement plan or your own IRA. if you're poor now, put the money into a roth IRA (roth = funded with money that you've been taxed on). if you're making a decent amount of money, put it into a trad ira (funded with pre-tax dollars). the idea with both is that the earnings it makes aren't taxed, but at some point the principle will be taxed (either now in the case of roth or later in the case of trad)
  • if you have grandkids or whoever, you can set up a 529 education plan to pay for their private schooling or college/trade and the earnings aren't taxed. this isn't a very good tax break but it's something

NB: nothing i said is illegal or fraudulent but it's so close to the line that there are regulations (circ 230) against accountants telling you things like these (such as how likely it is you'll be audited for doing X).

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All good advice thanks. I do have options it looks like and am going to look into farming. I have a couple acres on a bluff I can sell and buy 20-40 acres of tillable land instead.

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I'm in the same conundrum.

Right now I'm looking at:

Barter as much as possible.

Arrange your finances to not pay one penny more it taxes than you legally have to.

Figure out how to force them to waste as much of their money as possibly.

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  • a book written by a former IRS employee - Sherry wrote it after she got out of prison, so i'm guessing it's pretty full-proof (no, i haven't read it)
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