but its an exercise in bad faith debating so you cant disprove it, your arguments are right but your assuming people are acting in good faith, i can just make shit up to counter your points, its like playing chess with a pigeon, im just going to shit on the board and fly off thinking i won and so will some onlookers and that is how we ended up with people really believing it because the bullshit i can spout sounds more convincing and you cant disprove it with out a massive amount of effort, a lie will run around the world before the truth has got its boots on