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Title. Throw away away account, so I can't up/downvote anyone.

Terrified/Excited so many emotions. We're going to bring our first child into the world.

Problem is I fucking hate doctors. Don't trust them at all. I'd like some resources for looking into the best way to avoid unnecessary doctor fuckery.

For instance, if it ends up being a boy, they'll want to chop part of his dick off (ain't happenin') but what other bullshit do they try to put your offspring/ wife through?

I'm not against vaccines, but looked at the recommended course and it's like, how many fucking vaccines does an unborn child really need? They need vaccines in utero? I'm not buying it. Or the vitamin k shot to infants? So many questions, I'd really appreciate any advice y'all have to give.

Title. Throw away away account, so I can't up/downvote anyone. Terrified/Excited so many emotions. We're going to bring our first child into the world. Problem is I fucking hate doctors. Don't trust them at all. I'd like some resources for looking into the best way to avoid unnecessary doctor fuckery. For instance, if it ends up being a boy, they'll want to chop part of his dick off (ain't happenin') but what other bullshit do they try to put your offspring/ wife through? I'm not against vaccines, but looked at the recommended course and it's like, how many fucking vaccines does an unborn child really need? They need vaccines in utero? I'm not buying it. Or the vitamin k shot to infants? So many questions, I'd really appreciate any advice y'all have to give.

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[–] 11 pts

Mother here

I’ve had 2 hospital births and 2 home births and 1 miscarriage

The hospital births butchered me (2 different hospitals) Doctors don’t know diddly squat about birth even if it’s what they do for a living

Home birth all the way - get a midwife - you will more than likely discover she is the most knowledgeable person on the planet.

My first birth (Hospital) took 6 MONTHS to recover from because I tore so badly and my baby almost died and suffered from pneumonia at birth. Hospital does not equal safe. That’s what you get for being your doctors last appointment before they go on vacation.

I was very anti home birth at first because I wanted to “be responsible” and do the mainstream stuff. I am SO thankful I had a change of heart. My home births were incredible - safe, not rushed, gentle (and cheaper!)

My first 2 kids had vax at first - ear infections all the time. It was rough. Later kids no vax - super healthy

Have your wife drink red raspberry tea esp 3rd trimester - get the loose stuff not tea bags. Oat straw is good too I can give you the recipe if you want.

Also have her focus on Vitamin K2 during 3rd trimester then you can avoid the Vit K shot. (If you go to the hospital they will fight you on this and some parents have even had CPS called on them for avoiding the Vit K)

We don’t do the birth eye goop either - just squirt some breast milk on their eyes if it looks like they need it.

I’ve made a lot of mistakes the past 10 years but hopefully I can save you and your wife from making some them.

I lurk on here all the time but you drew me out to actually comment. Good luck

PS glad you’re not going to circ if you’re having a boy but BEWARE doctors are trained to retract foreskin make sure you tell them No! to that crap.

PPS watch “The Business of Being Born”

Also Congrats :)

[–] 2 pts

> I tore so badly and my baby almost died and suffered from pneumonia at birth. Hospital does not equal safe.

I'm so sorry to hear that. What specifically might you have done, if anything, to avoid that? I've read that can be do to lying prone, which is great for doctors,but bad for mothers. If my wife still wants a hospital birth for the first one (I think she will) is there anything you wish you had told your doc, or done to make your stay better?

Congratulations on having that many children, we need more like you.

>Have your wife drink red raspberry tea esp 3rd trimester - get the loose stuff not tea bags. Oat straw is good too I can give you the recipe if you want.

For what purpose, please?

Did you delay vax on your other kids, or did they never get any?

>We don’t do the birth eye goop either

I'd read that it's given to avoid STD infections, which wouldn't apply to either of us.

>doctors are trained to retract foreskin make sure you tell them No! to that crap.

WTF? Why? Isn't it, like, fused to the body? Do you know of any bullshit they try to do to baby girls?

Thank you, I'll watch it, and thank you for your congratulations.

Thank you very much for your advice, and given your comment, the rest of us would benefit from you not lurking as much. :-)

[–] 3 pts

> I'm so sorry to hear that. What specifically might you have done, if anything, to avoid that? I've read that can be do to lying prone, which is great for doctors,but bad for mothers. If my wife still wants a hospital birth for the first one (I think she will) is there anything you wish you had told your doc, or done to make your stay better?

I was induced because my doctor was going out of town - the stupidest decision of my life!!

For my first birth I was induced (5 days early) so pitocin led to epidural which led to her oxygen levels dropping which caused the doc to say push harder which led to tearing. (Honestly if the surgery room would’ve been open probably would’ve been a c section) this exact senario plays out over and over in hospitals.

Pitocin is terrible and causes your body to react to the drug rather than your body’s natural labor rhythms. Labor ebbs and flows like the ocean when left to its own devices pitocin causes it to work very mechanically and robotic. And women’s bodies don’t like being told what to do LOL

Pitocin can also mess with a woman’s oxytocin levels making it harder for her to bond to her baby. I’ll find the source if you want

And yes pushing in stirrups is only good for the doctor and makes the birthing canal longer than if say a woman is squatting while laboring.

> Congratulations on having that many children, we need more like you.

Thank you - you are very kind. It’s been the hardest challenge of my life but very rewarding.

Red Raspberry Leaf tones the uterus and contains lots of vitamins as minerals. It helps with lessening post partum hemorrhaging etc. lots of info online - some anecdotal some scientific. For me I could tell a difference for my 2 that I did drink red raspberry leaf tea (I do think you are supposed to wait until 2nd trimester tho - I don’t remember - my last pregnancy was a couple years ago)

I went from completely yes vaccines are good and necessary to completely no vaccines are not good. I saw the affects they had on my children and the ingredients are a big worry for me especially the fetal cells. But the monkey and cow parts don’t give me warm fuzzies either. Mother’s intuition told me something was wrong too. The current news cycle has only solidified my resolve but it is very difficult to find a doctor to go along with no vax.

> doctors are trained to retract foreskin make sure you tell them No! to that crap. WTF? Why? Isn't it, like, fused to the body?

Yes it is fused to the head of the penis My son’s doctor informed me they retract to make sure the urethra comes out at the tip of the head not somewhere else. I told him “well he’s peeing fine so it’s probably not an issue...”

Retraction can cause the need for circumcision because it can damage the way everything goes together or something - I don’t know. It’s stupid.

Baby girls - docs tend to look at all the visible parts - I haven’t seen any shenanigans

The war is definitely against the little boys I’m afraid.

> Thank you very much for your advice, and given your comment, the rest of us would benefit from you not lurking as much. :-)

Congratulations again Good Luck And thank you for your kind words

If you have more questions I’ll answer later - have to get dinner on

Best wishes to you and your wife

[–] 1 pt

This website has some good stuff: https://wellnessmama.com/

We use this oral Vit K supplement for our babies https://www.preciousarrows.com/Bio_K_Mulsion_p/44000.htm

You can find the dosages for it online - there are some European countries that use the oral supplementation rather than the shot

[–] 1 pt

Oh! Also look into the crap they put in those drinks for the pregnancy diabetes test - really bad stuff

Some midwives will allow you to use like 10 jellybeans instead - if you can go that route to avoid the crap

If she can have her breastfeed! My kids have all breastfed past 2 years - all strong and smart

Homeschool!

Look into cosleeping (it’s not for everyone but without it I would get zero sleep) literally 0 minutes

[–] 0 pt

Diabetes test should be refused. It's complete bullshit

[–] 0 pt

Absolutely agree with you! I had a false positive - had to check my blood 4 times a day it was stupid, annoying and I never had an abnormal reading. Ate healthy never had a problem. Convinced the test is rigged or something but I’m sure the medical community would never do that........

[–] 0 pt

Yes. Had the CPS problem on vitamin k as well. The way around it is to claim religious exemption. That is the only legal way to say no easily and end the conversation quickly. By the way you want this fleshed out before the delivery.