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[–] 16 pts

Why the fuck would you tell the truth to one of these fucking idiots?

You're treating them like thinking humans instead of NPC automatons that need to be verbally hacked.

You just hack them and go on your way.

[–] 5 pts

The truth still matters, mate. Telling the truth can help someone else around you who might have less of a spine decide to follow your example and push back as well. But you do you.

[–] 4 pts

So you get into ridiculous debates with mask faggot retail managers everywhere you go? I am totally fine with saying the least number of words possible to get them to fuck off. It's like having a magic spell. Some fat, messy, wild-eyed retard in a mask comes shambling over to me, and I just go "abra ka-medical exemption", and poof, the intellectually challenged homosexual goes away.

[–] 2 pts

No. I didn't say anything about what I do. I don't claim fake exemptions because I refuse to play the kike's game. I just tell them no and carry on. And in the few places that have pushed hard I have taken my business elsewhere.

Even playing the exemption game allows them to convince everyone else around you and normalize that it's acceptable for them to mandate the use of a medical product in the first place.

[–] 2 pts

Do not cast your pearls before swine.

[–] 0 pt

Yeah. With my second baby they went so far as to ask if I would like to speak with the Immunisation Fellow, sure I said. I am open to learning what I don't know and was keen to see if someone who had actually studied vaccine had some rebuttals that might convince me to change my mind.

Well he came to talk to me and I asked him my questions. I know Vitamin K is not a vaccine but he brought that up and straight up denied that it was a coagulant, and he wouldn't say what the K stood for except it wasn't coagulant because that starts with a C (hint: not in all languages). He mostly avoided my questions and stuck to the traditional talking points of NPCs only he had more statistics on infection and infection complication/death rates. I told him I was aware of the risks of the diseases but my issues were with the risks of the vaccines and he kept dodging. He eventually said he would email me something but it was more disease negative studies not vaccine safety.

Anyway the two mums in the ward with me came up to me afterwards to ask if I was okay because he seemed a bit aggressive and me shaken... I wasn't and I didn't think he was aggressive he just came across to me as broken programming NPC confused/angry at times. They were both shocked at how he didn’t answer any of my questions. One still expressed support for vaccines but that she had chosen a delayed schedule for her baby and the other expressed her ignorance and regret for never having thought of questions like mine or to question doctors and that they might not know everything.

[–] 2 pts

They were both shocked at how he didn’t answer any of my questions. One still expressed support for vaccines but that she had chosen a delayed schedule for her baby and the other expressed her ignorance and regret for never having thought of questions like mine or to question doctors and that they might not know everything.

Thats the kind if thing I'm talking about elsewhere in this thread. We can dodge these issues and lie and pretend we're going on a delayed schedule or that we have medical exemptions or what have you. But if we actually tell the truth about our refusal, there's always a chance we can be changing the lives of those around us who may have never heard the truth.

[–] 0 pt

Literally just had a baby two weeks ago. Only one vaccine. Hep B. Doctor said, "do you want the hep b vaccine? Its recommended in the first 48 hours of life."

No shots the following monday at the pedes office for her newborn check up either.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Utter fucking insanity that doctors are giving this shit to newborns or 1 month olds.

[–] 1 pt

Our pediatrician told us it's okay to delay the Hep B due to natural breastfeeding immunity. The hospital staff actually were the ones to first advise us that we had the choice to defer all shots. They were also really chill about the eye drops and their protocol was not use the drops for at least several hours so the baby could latch and see us. They also offered the option of skipping the goop and applying breast milk.

They didn't have the option for the liquid vitamin K though, unfortunately, but not because they were against it. In fact they received several requests for it and we're aware of its advantages vs the injection.

Really it all boils down to being intelligent and selecting your providers.

[–] 1 pt

I never thought of it this way Thank you.

[–] 1 pt

Nuero linguistic programming.

The book "Influence" by Cialdini.

It'll change your life.

[–] 0 pt

How’d it change your life? Any examples?

[–] 1 pt

NPC automatons that need to be verbally hacked.

That could be an entire subverse on its own.

[–] 1 pt

precisely some of the most important brainwashing we need to overcome is thinking of them as fellow humans and them being our equals.