"Bad enough" means the failure of foundational distribution chains. The problem being, once broken, they will not re-form. They will have to be rebuilt from scratch, which would take literal decades in a country as large and industrially undeveloped as the United States, ask third world shitholes, Iraq and Afghanistan how tenuous their infrastructure is. Once bad enough hits, any memory of the United States goes with it, Commanders of military installations become regional warlords who will eventually begin to confiscate supplies from their surrounding communities, mass die-offs will occur left, right, and center. Coastal regions and urban centers will become inert centers of violence and death. International shipping will cease and a nation that import 97% of it's texitles will be starved for resources and supplies.
The Southern Border will cease to exist and the Northern Border will likely evolve to look somewhat differently that we are currently accustomed. If the United States falls, so to does the rest of the first world and those financially supported nation states that depend on arms, goods, and services. I wonder how much of the world Israel will try to take with it when it inevitably falls.
Yes. I'm aware of this.
There won't be any meaningful rebellion until people start starving, have to go without power, water, or fuel, or some combination of each, for an extended period of time.
It's not that people won't eventually become deprived enough to fight, it's that by the time they do, nothing worth conserving will still exist.
Whites built every single thing you mentioned in the first place and could build all that shit again if they wanted to, once they have the freedom to put a bullet in every non-White and jew leech in the West. Building the peak of the world's civilizations out of nothing is exactly what Whites are known for, after all.
Unlike third world non-White shitholes that were civilized for some period of a few decades due to help from Whites, the only thing that would prevent building up the modern world again is willpower and/or the prevalence of non-Whites and kikes. When a third world non-White shithole that was civilized due to the help of Whites goes to shit, the shitskin subhumans are incapable of making it nice again. That's not the case with Whites.
Right, except this time they will be tasked to do this without supply lines to the old world, they will do this without access to any archaic and esoteric technologies that existed pre-industrial revolution. They will do this without easy access to natural resources which have all been exploited. They will do this without scalable oil production because that is now offshore and shale. They will do this without clean and abundant waterways, coastal regions, forests, and wildlife.
They will do this is a nation that overwhelmingly resembles the Balkans after their war in the '90's, where the infrastructure has been so completely destroyed due to widespread and indiscriminate warfare that it is incapable of performing as intended and instead bleeds industrial toxins into the environment. In such a case, only complete deconstruction of the structure and industrial clean-up can mitigate the damage; this option will not be present to the majority of a post war America, and certainly less likely so in dense urban areas and shipping hubs.
See, the oil connection is the critical pathway that cannot be allowed to falter, but domestic oil production is incredibly demanding in it's consumption of resources. In no other modern collapse was there no cavalry, no international community to fall back upon - even if their aims were exploitative, in the short term, cleanup, repair, and restoration services were provided.
That's not going to happen this time. This affliction would be too widespread. Basically, what remains would resemble any apocalypse game you've ever played.
If open warfare breaks out, we all lose. If we're lucky, the government is taken over by a civil authority - perhaps akin to an Adolf Hitler, whose vision of America is the impetus for domestic recovery. If we're less lucky, the military attacks the government and establishes an authoritarian dictatorship with a specified aim of restoration - which will of course fail - but in that case, what comes next is likely far more desirable than a decent into a true chaos of post-modern hell.
If open warfare breaks out, we all lose.
No, non-Whites and jews lose. Whites can rebuild from whatever we have. Doesn't matter how degraded that world is, as long as non-Whites and kikes aren't in the way, Whites can get it done.
Comparing what would happen to what happens when subhuman shitskins and other mongrel races have a collapse is silly. Non-human races can barely fucking function even with the entire White world propping them up with handouts as it is.
We do not disagree on that point. Without Europeans, the African decends into it's natural state, they will simply control the American South up to and including Virginia, Maryland and DC. The Jew will burrow and hide and manipulate like it always does though Israel will likely fall without America's ability to fund and supply arms to ensure "military supremacy' in the region.
Make no mistake, if what we're talking about is a post-open warfare scenario, there will be no oil - certainly not such to build a society from. Without oil, there is no modern world - no matter how clever the surviving race. Societal evolution stops - hard fucking stops at the Victorian Era as the apex of a non-petroleum society.
we will also not have sailing vessel technology or whale oil. The Brits actually have vocational programs attempting to keep ancient shipbuilding skills alive. I don't know how numerous the participants though.
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