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Family member (who had the rona) chose the J&J vxx because it was not mRNA. But the CDC hasn’t isolated the virus, so how can it be traditional? This link states they used an adenovirus to create the spike protein, so wouldn’t that vxxinate against adenovirus instead of coronavirus? None of this makes any sense. http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-johnson-johnson-and-mrna-vaccines/

Said relative was upset at the reports of heart side effects, maybe he’s regretting getting an experimental vxxine when he has natural immunity to whatever disease he had, symptoms were that of a bad cold. Needed a test to know he had the rona.

I love him, but he can’t think for himself.

Family member (who had the rona) chose the J&J vxx because it was not mRNA. But the CDC hasn’t isolated the virus, so how can it be traditional? This link states they used an adenovirus to create the spike protein, so wouldn’t that vxxinate against adenovirus instead of coronavirus? None of this makes any sense. http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-johnson-johnson-and-mrna-vaccines/ Said relative was upset at the reports of heart side effects, maybe he’s regretting getting an experimental vxxine when he has natural immunity to whatever disease he had, symptoms were that of a bad cold. Needed a test to know he had the rona. I love him, but he can’t think for himself.

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[–] [deleted] 16 pts

symptoms were that of a bad cold

That's because a coronavirus is the common cold.

[–] 7 pts

Nobody would have noticed anything at all if not for (((media))) and hospitals reporting fake cases.

[–] 4 pts

Yes, I agree, but he feels lucky it wasn’t worse. Can’t convince him it’s a non-issue, that minor diseases are a threat only to the old and weak, and they always have been. You can have cancer, arthritis, heart disease and diabetes at age 95 and it’s the flu that kills you.

[–] [deleted] 10 pts

Go look at the average age of death from covid19 and compare it to the average lifespan in the USA. It pretty much kills people who beat the odds already.

[–] 2 pts

Be 600 pounds, but want to get vaxxed to survive longer

[–] 5 pts

he feels lucky it wasn’t worse

The worst hasn't happened yet. This winter he will catch a cold and it will be the worst of his life. He'll probably survive but his chances of survival will go down every cold and flu season from here on out. Might as well start distancing yourself from him now as the vaccinated are the REAL "variant factories" having been literally programmed to create the next gen bioweapon to infect the rest of us before finally exhausting the host.

[–] 5 pts

Exactly my thoughts. I don’t think we have seen the worst of it yet. mRNA changing I believe to basically give people autoimmune disorder or aids in a way.

Viruses aren't what the talmudvision tells you.

Then what explains the excess mortality

[–] 7 pts

There is no excess mortality. Check all-cause mortalities from the last 2 years

[–] 0 pt

I have been looking for good sources for mortality data.

[–] 0 pt

There was for a while. Not worldwide but in the US.

[–] 7 pts

Psychosomatic phenomena.

So a normally healthy 45 year old man gets a nasty flu. His work forces him to not only stay home, but to go get tested for a "deadly virus" that is causing the entire world to die (according to everything this man has been told). The tests are bullshit, he ends up testing positive- now his life is turned upside down. "OMG YOU HAVE THE COOF, YOU CAN'T COME BACK TO WORK, ISOLATE YOURSELF, YOU MIGHT DIE OR KILL YOUR LOVED ONES!!" The guy is now like "Holy shit, I have a deadly virus! I'm so scared, what the hell am I going to do?!"

His body dumps tons of cortisol (stress hormone) into his bloodstream, because he's in fucking mortal terror. Even though he doesn't feel that bad, now he will start to feel worse- cortisol weakens the immune system, especially over long periods of time. Let's say... a full two weeks of living in mortal terror. That shit can change you at a chemical level, forever. So now this "not so bad cold" escalates to a "holy shit I can't even stand up and it's getting hard to breathe."

Also the mortality numbers are inflated. One of my favorite deaths ruled as "covid death" was that spic who came into hospital because his blood alcohol content was 0.18. He died. They tested his corpse, found that he "had covid", and now he is added to that stat of covid deaths.

[–] 5 pts

It's called propaganda. They lie about everything

[–] 1 pt

Look up the numbers - the actual numbers not the MSM propaganda - deaths were actually slightly below average for 2020.

[–] 9 pts

Just popped by to add a little info:

J&J is a "viral vector" vaccine, so not traditional (inactivated virus) at all.

Basically the J&J tricks your immune system to take over your cells and turn them into spike protein factories. Similar to the mRNA jabs which use the mRNA to reprogram your cells. The J&J just has a synthetic virus (or virus-like entity) which actually attacks and commandeers your cells.

All are bad. However, the mRNA might be a tad worse. J&J is not traditional in any sense, though, and certainly not safe!

Best wishes to your relative, he made a very poor choice getting a jab. It is becoming clearer by the day that they do anything BUT "protect from COVID."

[–] 5 pts

It's more traditional than mRNA but still new. J&J and sputnik V are both adenoviral vectors for delivery of spike protein.

Essentially spike proteins in covid-19, (the spike proteins have been isolated and there is plenty of research) are the novel part of the "novel coronavirus" which means your immune system ain't seen shit the likes of it and so could get really stumped in dealing with it. The adenoviral vector jabs use an inert genetically engineered adenovirus which will make a paltry attempt to reproduce in your system and your immune system basically gets a peak at the spike protein which has been engineered onto the adenovirus. The funny thing here is isolating the spike protein isn't that hard and the AVV shots still chose not to just inject some loose RNA geometry into your blood because that would be dangerous.

American AVV shots had an intense correlation to bloodclots, the spike protein binds to vesicle walls and so even covid-19 itself cause higher risk of blood clot than the SARS virus it was based on but sputnik internationally has the lowest side effects of all the new tech jabs and its probably got to do with temperatures, sputnik vaccines are stored warmer and hand warmed prior to injection, american AVV shots are taken from below freezing storage and straight away injected.

Virus is just SARS, with engineered spike protein, mRNA jab isn't a vaccine, it's a crime against humanity.

[–] 4 pts

This ENTIRE wuflu is one big clusterfuck! There is NOT one number regarding all this bullshit that is remotely accurate!! NOT ONE

[–] 0 pt (edited )

I rekt a cvnt on here recently.

Muh covid has killed 6 billion Americans.

OK but China only lost 5000. How do you explain that?

Well muh China lies.

OK but so does usa. Look at the fake election results.... Difference is china grew their economy. If hidden billions died how was that possible? Whereas lock downs destroyed small business America trashing much of the economy

[–] 3 pts

covid-19

Doesn't exist.

The flu

Does.

[–] 2 pts (edited )

J&J uses an adenovirus vector to insert DNA into your cell. Said DNA would be transcribed into RNA which then causes cells to make SARS-CoV2 S glycoprotein antigen being the same spike protein which a cell makes when transfected with mRNA from Pfizer or Moderna injection.

As with other COVID19 injections JJ has adverse circulatory events reported in VAERS in remote locations from the injection site.

[–] 2 pts

I keep seeing the assertion that the virus has not been isolated, yet researchers can capture live virus samples in feces and describe individual features of the virus. Everything is a pile of misinformation.

[–] 2 pts

I believe what is meant is that there is no qualified isloate of the virus. This would involve taking a specimen from an infected person whom is showing symptoms and then culturing the virus from this specimen.

I have read that health authorities do not have such an isolate. The vaccines were created using a genetic sequence published in China and not using a qualified isolate as I understand that discussion.

Given that there are millions of dollars in bounty for creation of an isolate unclaimed this seems plausible, but I do not follow this in detail.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Viral vector vaccines accomplish the same thing as the mRNA envelope vaccines do. Just instead of a lipid envelope they use a adenovirus to trojan horse the genetic information into your body. They are a next generation vaccine platform. Europe and China have attenuated virus vaccines but that's not anything that is available in America.

People should have approached therapeutics with an endpoint of lessened symptoms like you do antibiotics.

[–] 1 pt

I'm reminded that 8% of the human genome is viral. Nah it's fine to use viral vectors. Totally zero risk

[–] 2 pts

You can use covid and vax here unless you’re trying to get around search engine shenanigans.

[–] 4 pts

Youtubers were doing this to avoid getting a tag that might cut their viewership and a bunch of mongs have taken to censoring themselves for no reason.

[–] 1 pt

That's what I figured was happening. I wanted to make sure the poster knew that we don't bother with that here. But they should know that by now.

[–] 2 pts

I’m on enough lists, don’t need to be on another.

[–] 5 pts

We, users of Poal, are on all the lists already.

[–] 6 pts

They're building a special re-education camp just for Poal users.

[–] 1 pt

You're posting on a known highly conservative site. You're on another list for that.

[–] 1 pt

An you are on mine :-)

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