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Update below: we’re fucked.

Update 2 below: we’re really fucked.

I’m not a doctor and just understand the basics of blood. So probably a stupid question.

You usually get whole blood or plasma what are the risk of those cells being spike protein factories or cells that just happen to be in the blood(if possible) and stating stating your body producing spikes?

Don’t most blood cells due within a month or so, without the rna code what’s the likely hod of a few rogue organ cells being in the blood and attaching to yours? Not very likely I’d think since you’re body would see foreign cells as invaders and destroy them.

Usually antibody treatments for diseases are spun down to just get the antibodies and currently that’s not allowed.

We know the vaxxed have damaged red blood cells and also macrophages with spikes attached. Is there any literature on the vaccine manufacturing spikes in blood cells?

Basically the biggest threat is the spike attaching to platelets and causing micro clots for a few weeks would be my guess but if your immune system is good it should pick off most of the spikes within a day or two.

Would it lower your killer T cells/cd8 like with the vaxxed for months on end?

February 24, 2021

As COVID-19 vaccines are being distributed throughout the U.S., what does this mean for blood donors? Great news: if you receive the vaccine, you can still donate blood, platelets and AB Elite plasma! Donating blood is essential to help save lives and support the efforts of those on the frontlines of the pandemic.

The Red Cross is following FDA blood donation eligibility guidance for those who receive the COVID-19 vaccination. Deferral times for donations may vary depending on which brand of vaccine you received. If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate. In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine as long as they are symptom-free and feeling well at the time of donation.

Basically you can donate on the same day which is worse then I imagined, you still have RNA code floating around for 3-7 days after vaccination and can potentially “vaccinate” numerous people with one lot of blood.

Update:

It was just announced one dose of Pfizer contains 400 trillion rna instructions.

10% is 40 trillion as some people claim is all you’d get with a blood transfusion.

Let’s say they mix it with another hundred donors and it dilutes it to only 1% of the vaccine you still have 4 trillion rna codes that can invade your cells.

You could end up producing 4 trillion spike proteins perpetually instead of just 2 weeks with covid. What could possibly go wrong.

What’s the need for 400 trillion to begin with. You humans only have roughly 37.2 trillion cells.

4 trillion is roughly 10% of 37.2 trillion overall cells. So roughly 10% of your cells could be producing spike proteins for eternity and depending on the organ/s dna they decide to transcribe into, you’re fucked.

Good luck with that.

Update below: we’re fucked. Update 2 below: we’re really fucked. I’m not a doctor and just understand the basics of blood. So probably a stupid question. You usually get whole blood or plasma what are the risk of those cells being spike protein factories or cells that just happen to be in the blood(if possible) and stating stating your body producing spikes? Don’t most blood cells due within a month or so, without the rna code what’s the likely hod of a few rogue organ cells being in the blood and attaching to yours? Not very likely I’d think since you’re body would see foreign cells as invaders and destroy them. Usually antibody treatments for diseases are spun down to just get the antibodies and currently that’s not allowed. We know the vaxxed have damaged red blood cells and also macrophages with spikes attached. Is there any literature on the vaccine manufacturing spikes in blood cells? Basically the biggest threat is the spike attaching to platelets and causing micro clots for a few weeks would be my guess but if your immune system is good it should pick off most of the spikes within a day or two. Would it lower your killer T cells/cd8 like with the vaxxed for months on end? >**February 24, 2021** >As COVID-19 vaccines are being distributed throughout the U.S., what does this mean for blood donors? **Great news: if you receive the vaccine, you can still donate blood, platelets and AB Elite plasma!** Donating blood is essential to help save lives and support the efforts of those on the frontlines of the pandemic. >The Red Cross is following FDA blood donation eligibility guidance for those who receive the COVID-19 vaccination. Deferral times for donations may vary depending on which brand of vaccine you received. **If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate. In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine as long as they are symptom-free and feeling well at the time of donation**. Basically you can donate on the same day which is worse then I imagined, you still have RNA code floating around for 3-7 days after vaccination and can potentially “vaccinate” numerous people with one lot of blood. Update: It was just announced one dose of Pfizer contains 400 trillion rna instructions. 10% is 40 trillion as some people claim is all you’d get with a blood transfusion. Let’s say they mix it with another hundred donors and it dilutes it to only 1% of the vaccine you still have 4 trillion rna codes that can invade your cells. You could end up producing 4 trillion spike proteins perpetually instead of just 2 weeks with covid. What could possibly go wrong. What’s the need for 400 trillion to begin with. You humans only have roughly 37.2 trillion cells. 4 trillion is roughly 10% of 37.2 trillion overall cells. So roughly 10% of your cells could be producing spike proteins for eternity and depending on the organ/s dna they decide to transcribe into, you’re fucked. Good luck with that.

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[–] [deleted] • 10 pts

Considering that they accept blood from faggots with AIDS, I'd stay way from it for that reason alone.

[–] • 1 pt

They still test for hiv, hepatitis and a few other diseases.

[–] • 5 pts

With modern drugs, people that have HIV can test negative.

Food for thought.

[–] • 2 pts

Hospital just forces you to take PrEP before they give you blood transfusions

This is the future we fought for.

[–] • 4 pts

what about getting the designer mRNA in the transfusion?

[–] • 0 pt

You can they if donate they donate blood while the rna is still circulating a few days after the jab. I’m sure could do it on purpose thankfully most are too sick to get out of bed.

[–] • 1 pt

Think logically. Worst case scenario is that someone gets a shot of the vaccine and then immediately donates a pint of blood. You are only getting about 10% of that person's blood, so you are only getting a small amount of the vaccine.

The vaccine has killed some people, and harmed others. Most people, however, recover. Does the vaccine have long-term side effects? Possibly, but if so, it is unlikely that they will kill/harm many people.

A 10% dose of something that is mostly safe is no big deal. Plus, it isn't like everyone is donating the same day.

[–] • 1 pt

also compare that risk with the risk of not getting any blood at that point you’re already on borrowed time

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

So if you only get 10% of the vaccine that’s only roughly 40 trillion cells producing the spike protein instead of 400 trillion.

Does the vaccine have long-term side effects? Possibly, but if so, it is unlikely that they will kill/harm many people.

That’s reassuring because all animal studies have shown otherwise.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

It was just announced one dose of Pfizer contains 400 trillion rna instructions.

10% is 40 trillion

Let’s say they mix it with another hundred donors and it dilutes it to only 1% of the vaccine you still have 4 trillion rna codes that can invade your cells.

You could end up producing 4 trillion spike proteins perpetually instead of just 2 weeks with covid. What could possibly go wrong.

What’s the need for 400 trillion to begin with. You only have roughly 37.2 trillion cells to begin with.

4 trillion is roughly 10% of 37.2 trillion overall cells. So roughly 10% of your cells could be producing spike proteins for eternity.

Good luck with that.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I've read that the Pfizer shot is "self-amplifying". Meaning there is logic in the mRNA to hijack your body to create more and more spike without limit. I think its only limited by how long it takes the mRNA to break down. So its a bit of a horserace whether the existing mRNA dies out faster than it can create new.

[–] • 0 pt

Not if it transcribes into your dna since it’s been reported to. The last study showed all participants were still producing spike proteins at the same level as the beginning 5 months later.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Well, that's disturbing. I had family members visit who I knew to have taken the P shot. I had debated not lettingn them near the kids. :\

[–] • 1 pt

I'm getting a bone graft and I'm genuinely concerned.

[–] • 1 pt

You can pre donate your own blood and get a self transfusion.

Ask about it.

[–] • 0 pt

That doesn't alleviate the bone graft concern. Should that donor mass have been from a jabbed individual, who knows what will happen...

[–] • 0 pt

Does that require a blood transfusion?

Can’t you donate ahead of time?

Don’t they just recycle the blood sometimes?

[–] • 0 pt

A bone graft involves cadaver bone mass, which may or may not have come from a vaccinated person. It might be fine.

[–] • 1 pt

Oh I didn’t even think of that.

I’m sure it will be fine.

Good luck with the surgery and have a speedy recovery.

[–] • 1 pt

Here in Germany you can donate blood the day after your jab if you're feeling good.

[–] • 0 pt

Same here according to the Red Cross, so our blood supply is tainted.

Someone posted how long rna in the vaccine can last once unfrozen, I believe it was 2 weeks and the vial is bad.

Don’t know how long blood stays on the shelf before used or if blood would keep the rna last longer.

[–] • 0 pt

Most people only donate plasma though. Perhaps that's less risky.

[–] • 0 pt

Just looked it up, it appears to be.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Is it possible to have un-jabbed family or friends donate for you in an emergency?

I would do it for anyone who asks.

[–] • 2 pts

You could in the past, when people were allowed in the hospital. You could also bank your own blood for an upcoming surgery.

But if you’re bleeding out from an accident I don’t think you’d have time and they use what they got.

[–] • 2 pts

You could also bank your own blood for an upcoming surgery.

Now you can't even trust then to keep your own blood separate and unadulterated.

[–] • 3 pts

I didn’t even think of that. Some do gooder pro vaxxer would probably switch it out.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Good point.

[–] • 2 pts

Someone replied that they usually use plasma, after looking to make sure what plasma is, it seems safer. No red blood cells or immune system cells, just the liquid that carries your own blood and immune system.

If you need whole blood though it may be tainted.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Vaccinated people are NOT allowed to donate blood in the US, they check before you do. (Except for CA which allows everyone including AIDS infected to donate blood) In short if you're not in CA you should be ok.

[–] • 0 pt

The Red Cross says otherwise, I believe that was for trial participants last year.

February 24, 2021

As COVID-19 vaccines are being distributed throughout the U.S., what does this mean for blood donors? Great news: if you receive the vaccine, you can still donate blood, platelets and AB Elite plasma! Donating blood is essential to help save lives and support the efforts of those on the frontlines of the pandemic.

The Red Cross is following FDA blood donation eligibility guidance for those who receive the COVID-19 vaccination. Deferral times for donations may vary depending on which brand of vaccine you received. If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate. In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine as long as they are symptom-free and feeling well at the time of donation.

[–] • 0 pt

I remember reading something that said the jabbed can't donate blood

[–] • 1 pt

February 24, 2021

As COVID-19 vaccines are being distributed throughout the U.S., what does this mean for blood donors? Great news: if you receive the vaccine, you can still donate blood, platelets and AB Elite plasma!* Donating blood is essential to help save lives and support the efforts of those on the frontlines of the pandemic.

The Red Cross is following FDA blood donation eligibility guidance for those who receive the COVID-19 vaccination. Deferral times for donations may vary depending on which brand of vaccine you received. If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate. In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine as long as they are symptom-free and feeling well at the time of donation.

Basically you can donate on the same day which is worse then I imagined, you still have RNA code floating around for 3-7 days.

[–] • 0 pt

Wow

[–] • 0 pt

Someone from Germany just posted the same for their country.

My reply:

Same here according to the Red Cross, so our blood supply is tainted.

Someone posted how long rna in the vaccine can last once unfrozen, I believe it was 2 weeks and the vial is bad.

Don’t know how long blood stays on the shelf before used or if blood would keep the rna last longer.

[–] • 1 pt

Not true in all cases. I had to undergo emergency bypass surgery and I asked the admitting nurse if the local Red Cross accepted vaxxed blood. She did not know but called while admitting me. Their answer was YES they did accept vaxxed blood but did not separate it from regular donors.

Fortunately I did not need a transfusion.

If you are having scheduled surgery, have your own blood drawn and stored. Otherwise its a crap shoot.

Also the hospital I was admitted to was going to deny me emergency surgery if I did not submit to a covid test !!!!!! Fortunately it was a shallow quick nasal test. I guess there is no Hippocratic oath any longer.

This was a major hospital in Wilmington, NC.

Good luck.

[–] • 0 pt

It's pretty standard procedure at all hospitals now to so a covid test before surgery. Not sure what happens if the test is positive. Maybe the surgery is delayed?

[–] • 0 pt

I’ll google but I think that was for the initial trial participants, not the millions of willing Guinea pigs.

[–] • 0 pt

Vasoconstriction and increased cardiac output is why you have blood clots.

[–] • 1 pt

It’s also been proven spike proteins attaching to platelets and spike proteins embedding into the walls of vessels and capillaries and are no longer smooth and platers start accumulating creating clots and micro clots.

[–] • 0 pt

I questioned this thoroughly as in my country you cannot donate blood for a specific person (yourself or a relative, the latter is actually risky if done more than once apparently). In the end there was literally no choice ("you can consent or we get a court order"). It was a while ago so I forget the specifics but apparently they scrub the blood so it is just a shell of what it is when donated with no DNA, no nasties and no goodness. I wasn't entirely convinced of the safety of it but they do also mix heaps of donors together, and there was a very low percentage of vaccinated people at the time (and most eligible for the vaccine were ineligible to donate) so it was likely mostly filtered out.

I do wish they would research it though before giving mRNA tainted blood to sick people. I hope myself and loved ones don't need any again.

[–] • 1 pt

Thanks for the reply.

It’s risky for relatives to donate? We did it twice for my dad. I wonder what the reasoning is.

[–] • 1 pt

In simple terms (from memory) it's basically the risk of allergic reaction to the blood of a relative and the closer the relative and the more often the donation the larger the chance. Especially big risk if you donate blood and then bone marrow to the person or a husband donates blood to the wife and then she gets pregnant by him later. It's not a huge risk by chance percentage but it is very likely you will die from it if it happens.

[–] • 0 pt

we'll know if 5 years. truthfully there are no studies on this since until this vax it was only animal studies nothing with humans so why would you transfuse blood between animals? i dont know the theory to make an educated guess but i do no there are no studies on mRNA and blood tranfusions

[–] • 1 pt

Five years? Yeah right. Unless there's a mass die off they will still be cheerleading for their 18th booster shot by then. Maybe in 50 or 75 years if there's anyone with an IQ over 100 still left alive....

[–] • 0 pt

that is exactly what i expect to happen

[–] • 1 pt

Basically, drive carefully, don’t do anything stupid and stay away from nigger infested areas until more is known.

[–] • 2 pts

All good ideas always anyway.