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When I first started seeing my husband and he talked about jews enough for me to think he might be crazy, I randomly met a jew who owned a local shop and he randomly started talking to me about being a jew. For some reason he thought I might be jewish. Weird since I'm very white and blonde. Scottish/Danish/German with no Jewish ancestry that I know of and very conservative kind of family. But when he sort of subtely asked if I was, I lied and told him I was adopted so I don't know my ancestry. I'm not sure why. Since I loved my husband already but thought there was no way jews were all evil and subversive, I guess I was hoping to learn something about the subject and husband had kept telling me they were secretive except with eachother.

Anyways I hung around and listened to what to this old man had to say. Like I came back several days and listened. Lots of stories I was told about his life, but I acted fascinated when he talked about his religion and family eventually he went into the subject. He told me that he believed that Jews have a special kind of sense- a way to manipulate people basically, or draw them to you- which is what all the stories about his life had been about pretty much, times he'd met famous people or knew something he shouldn't have known- and he said he thinks that jews got this talent because a woman long ago slept with a fallen angel and they're the offspring many generations down the line.

He tied the idea to a story from the bible but unfortunately I knee little enough about the bible that I didn't have any idea what he was talking about. There was more to it but I don't remember the details. Something about an island... I didn't really care at the time, all I cared about was that the guy I loved might not be crazy after all. I'm trying to figure out exactly what he was talking about now.

He literally suggested that jews are children of the devil, as if it were the coolest thing ever. Is this common knowledge? I'd love to know where this idea comes from. Like is there a story in the bible in which a woman sleeps with a fallen angel? He showed me his bible and told me what version it was as if it wasn't the standard version. I remember he talked about some lost book of the bible.

I'll always be grateful to this creepy old man who was proud of being devil spawn for totally confirming everything my now husband had been telling me. For a girl who didn't really know anything about jews it was a lot to swallow and this old man helped me accept it.

In case anyone is interested he also suggested that jews are generally superior because they travelled so much and when a kid was sickly they'd just get thrown off the wagon. As far a I remember that's pretty much all he told me about jews. Except that they'd hide that they were jewish. Was a big secret although the school knew he was a Roma gypsy I guess which is different than being jewish but also the same from what he said?

If anyone has any insight into that fallen angel story please share, thank you!!

When I first started seeing my husband and he talked about jews enough for me to think he might be crazy, I randomly met a jew who owned a local shop and he randomly started talking to me about being a jew. For some reason he thought I might be jewish. Weird since I'm very white and blonde. Scottish/Danish/German with no Jewish ancestry that I know of and very conservative kind of family. But when he sort of subtely asked if I was, I lied and told him I was adopted so I don't know my ancestry. I'm not sure why. Since I loved my husband already but thought there was no way jews were all evil and subversive, I guess I was hoping to learn something about the subject and husband had kept telling me they were secretive except with eachother. Anyways I hung around and listened to what to this old man had to say. Like I came back several days and listened. Lots of stories I was told about his life, but I acted fascinated when he talked about his religion and family eventually he went into the subject. He told me that he believed that Jews have a special kind of sense- a way to manipulate people basically, or draw them to you- which is what all the stories about his life had been about pretty much, times he'd met famous people or knew something he shouldn't have known- and he said he thinks that jews got this talent because a woman long ago slept with a fallen angel and they're the offspring many generations down the line. He tied the idea to a story from the bible but unfortunately I knee little enough about the bible that I didn't have any idea what he was talking about. There was more to it but I don't remember the details. Something about an island... I didn't really care at the time, all I cared about was that the guy I loved might not be crazy after all. I'm trying to figure out exactly what he was talking about now. He literally suggested that jews are children of the devil, as if it were the coolest thing ever. Is this common knowledge? I'd love to know where this idea comes from. Like is there a story in the bible in which a woman sleeps with a fallen angel? He showed me his bible and told me what version it was as if it wasn't the standard version. I remember he talked about some lost book of the bible. I'll always be grateful to this creepy old man who was proud of being devil spawn for totally confirming everything my now husband had been telling me. For a girl who didn't really know anything about jews it was a lot to swallow and this old man helped me accept it. In case anyone is interested he also suggested that jews are generally superior because they travelled so much and when a kid was sickly they'd just get thrown off the wagon. As far a I remember that's pretty much all he told me about jews. Except that they'd hide that they were jewish. Was a big secret although the school knew he was a Roma gypsy I guess which is different than being jewish but also the same from what he said? If anyone has any insight into that fallen angel story please share, thank you!!

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The fallen angel sleeping with a woman is referring to when Eve sleeps with the serpent and Cain is conceived as a result. She tries to cover it up by sleeping with her husband Adam the same day of conception.

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Have never heard this, back to reading

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It's not in the Bible. Genesis chapter 4 verse 1 clearly reads, "Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, “I have gotten a man with the help of the Lord.” Genesis 4:1 ESV https://bible.com/bible/59/gen.4.1.ESV

Pretty clear right there that it is Adam who impregnates Eve and conceives Cain. Anything else is a lie of the devil and should not be taken seriously, except to look into for yourself and see that it is a false doctrine.

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that's not entirely true.

The serpent tempted Eve with the forbidden fruit, the mainstream view says that this just means knowledge, and that is true to an extent, but it can also be viewed as sex, or a woman's virginity.

So Eve ate the fruit of the Serpent, had sex, then ate with Adam right after, had sex

This is confirmed in Gen 3:15 when God is speaking to the serpent:

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel

So there's the Serpent seed (Cain) and her seed (Abel)

And before you protest, look up 'Superfecundation', it is possible for a women to conceive children to two different men.

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Thank you. That explains it, did some research and found out that eve impregnated by the devil is a Jewish interpretation of the story of Cain and Abel. Now I know why I've never read it before.

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Yes. There are bred of canninites. Canninite jews. Went off in he wilderness and started own tribes after Noah. The two tribes. One flourished and grew and had gods blessing. The other.. always trying to destroy out of pure jealousy. Talmud was created by descendants of Cain.

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Canaanites were Phoenicians/Punics/Carthaginians.

Carthaginians sacrificed children.

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That sounds like what the old man said. I do remember him saying something about being descendants of Cain as well, and I remember him describing two groups that split off from eachother. Huh. Thanks!

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Hmm I also want go out into the wilderness. Maybe I'm a Canaanite

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That is not biblical, there is nowhere in the Bible that backs this up and does nothing but add confusion to people who want to learn the truth about the creation.

No it is not. The closest you'll find is the Nephelim.