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I hear a lot of people saying global warming is a scam, it’s fake, or whatever.

Many of them point to record low temperatures and others mention that temperature data is being fudged to make it seem like it’s real. This could be possible. I’m currently undecided on the whole thing.

But how do you explain the melting glaciers? These are things you can see with your own eyes and know to be true. For instance look at old pictures of glacier national park and compare it to today. Also a ski resort based on a glacier in Bolivia literally had to shut down because the 18,000 year old glacier on it melted. You can go there and see it with your own eyes to verify.

I hear a lot of people saying global warming is a scam, it’s fake, or whatever. Many of them point to record low temperatures and others mention that temperature data is being fudged to make it seem like it’s real. This could be possible. I’m currently undecided on the whole thing. But how do you explain the melting glaciers? These are things you can see with your own eyes and know to be true. For instance look at old pictures of glacier national park and compare it to today. Also a ski resort based on a glacier in Bolivia literally had to shut down because the 18,000 year old glacier on it melted. You can go there and see it with your own eyes to verify.

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I think it pointless to try to convince you one way or the other because I don't effing know. I do suggest nobody else really knows either. Since the 70's people have tried to fearmonger the climate. They called it global cooling. Then they stared moving the goal posts; acid rain, the hole in the ozone, global warming, now they just say climate change. So if the science of the day says it's too hot or it's too cold it's the end of the world because the climate changed.
You mentioned glaciers melting; did you see this one where they are increasing? Why wouldn't this encouraging article be headline news? Maybe our efforts this far have helped? Naw...it's not profitable to have good results.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

Volcanic eruptions, solar flares, and wild fires can all affect global temperatures. Do we have accurate models predicting those?

Why is it that regardless of the science the solution is always the same...gotta pay a tax? It was capitalism that brought about paper straws. Cool. If taxes were lowered more venture capitalists could fund more products to clean the environment. See THAT I like. I want a clean environment. I don't want smog so thick you have to turn on car headlights during the day. I don't want rivers or lakes catching fire because of trash and chemicals. I want clean water for drinking and fishing. Conservatives have a history of conservation regarding the environment. Hunting and fishing licenses help to fund protections and steel vs. lead shot help as well.

Those efforts are pretty minor but at least there is a possibility of accurately tieing them to duck dear and fish populations by state.

Not being able to accurately measure the effects of bad behavior on the climate, or racism for that matter, is by design. If you deprived someone of the use of $1,000 that's the starting point for restitution. If we can never accurately estimate the damage to the environment there could never be a point where reasonable people say, "enough is enough".

There is always someone saying we need more of your money to fix the bad thing and to fund another layer of bureaucracy to administer and enslave you.

When's the last time a public servant said, we have taken enough of your money, we did the hard thing, we made the wrong right, thank you?

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I know, it's a scam. The 2009 e-mail scandal details how they did the data fraud. I broke it down on another comment on this thread and left links if you want to see.