I thought about your question. The answer is: What did they win?

The reality of the muslim world is that their violence is based around an ideological center that we do not have. Their violence is destructive to us, but, it is also destructive to them.

If the muslim world did not collapse in 1000ad into abject religious dogma and instead managed to combine religious structure with scientific and economic openness it wouldn't be the shithole that it is.

We are currently on the same precipice as islam was in 1000ad. We have 50%of the population entirely under the control of our enemies propaganda and utterly degenerate, much like the conquered muslim civilizations were then. The difference this time is that we don't have a religious center to collapse into.

The downside is that we cannot offer a religious option to collapse into, but that isn't necessarily a bad situation. Instead, what we are discovering is that everyone in our civilization is biased to one side or the other by default and the pressures we are under now are only showing the division more clearly. That means, the question isn't just "did they lose", the question is also "what can we do to win?"

This is the same ancient problem that our people have faced. We have to build alliances, we have to educate our people, we have to train our people and we have to work with our people to define the future that we want to achieve together before we can ask them for sacrifice.

Violence is the quickest answer. Just like animals, we respond to pain, and the possibility of more pain. For example, we gave up our rights simply on a threat of "more violence is coming!".

Bad news is discomfort, violence is discomfort. Our instincts tell us to do what is needed to prevent or limit it. These facts have been used to pass every single anti-drug, anti-terror, anti-anything law in recent history. Most of us are stupid enough to believe it so long as our lives stay comfortable.