Anyone with even the tiniest bit of knowledge and perspective knows that you avoid physical options at all costs,
This is what I keep repeating to people hoping they grasp it, but the more I talk to people in places like the supermarket and online, the more wild and woolly and angry people seem to be.
You and I can suggest peace till the sun comes up, but I don't think its gonna do any good.
Eventually you just gotta punch a bully straight in the mouth and everyone knows it. And the federal government, left, journalism, courts, and wallstreet are the bully. And the GOP are the crony leftwing school teachers going after people for standing up for themselves or others.
We'll all be on poal just watching from the sidelines, but
Fights brewing.
I don't disagree that something might pop, for sure.
Federal government is running the narrative too hot.
The "giving ground" message such as courts giving us wins, isn't cooling the situation.
It's fueling it.
I wrote this a while back hoping some glowies would maybe, for once, on a sheer run of good luck, read something here, and realize the same thing and recommend against the current course.
I said it. I said if they let up, at all, it'll encourage our side to lawlessness, and like a pressure cooker, it wont be a situation they can control. It'll be like taking the lid off pandoras box.
They're inviting our opponents on the international stage to steal homeruns because if they keep on the present course, I see shit devolving into armed conflict in the u.s. and in europe.
I mean I guess I'm sort of relieved that its all over except seeing the country burn, its a strange sort of schadenfreude. And I can see why it wasnt just needed, but always going to play out this way.
I forget who said it, but maybe happiness is really just learning to accept the inevitable.
That is excellent analysis. I just posted earlier about people here NOT understanding that we have strengths and only seeing weaknesses. This doesn't allow them to negotiate the trades that we have to make with great sophistication.
Your point is AWESOME. I have been thinking about this for quite a while. The OTHER STRENGTH that we have is the utter fucking incompetence of the left. By the left I mean the commies, the jews, sjws, all lefties populating all institutions including the government and even the military now. NEVER understimate the power of your enemies incompetence.
One way to look at the war between the right and the left right now might be something like this:
The left is a set of communist ideologies that are hypernaiive about how the world works. They think in terms of ideals that sound nice but have no basis in reality, the same way that children think about the world.
The right is a set of values based around the notion of understand how the world works and act accordingly.
When people talk about war or strategy, they forget that they are ALWAYS NEGOTIATING. Every transaction is a negotation, all negotiations require that you know what your strengths are.
In this case, our greatest strength right now might be the breath taking incompetence of the left that runs everything. It really and truly is breath taking. Yes, people are not fighting back yet much. Yes something might pop. But, you have got to admit that every week that goes by the mid terms look better and better for the GOP, not because the GOP has managed to push out the dead wood (and it's mostly filled by people that don't want and don't know how to fight), but because of the breathtaking incompetence of the left.
We voted Trump into power in rejection of the left. The left said, we control everything so no, we are putting our guy in because we control everything including the people doing the vote counting. As you said, they are overplaying their cards by such a large margin, this is SOLIDIFYING so many ideas in our peoples minds forever that there is no turning back now.
Trump losing might actually turn out to be an asymetric win in a way. Yes we lost everything and the borders are open, but we cannot begin to close the borders without firing up our people. This IS NOT the way to do it, but as we are not doing anything right on our side anyway we may as well let our enemies do the dirty work for us.
This is what I want people to start thinking about. Yeah, it may pop. But, there are ways to look at things that paint more options for us.
To add to this point, you know sure someone will eventually lose their mind.
But, if we had a semblance of a white race or a white culture or a white anything and we could gather our people together, imagine half the country just going on a silent sit-in strike?
No violence necesssary. Just stop going to work, stop paying for everything. But a ton of rice and go outside your house with a chair or whatever and just gather and do a silent sit-in.
White people could take their countries back almost immediately.
They couldn't put everyone in jail. They couldn't kill everyone. They couldn't foreclose on everyone because everyone at once, especially if most of the white people inthose banks are in the protest.
What if white people started taking money out of banks in a co-ordinated way and rotated that around the country?
You just helped me realize the other problem our people have: WHITE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO NEGOTIATE.
In a negotiation you have to key skills:
You understand that everything is just a trade of one thing for another.
You walk into the trade knowing your strengths and weaknesses.
All successful trades require that a person look at the world through those two filters. In fact, you apply those two filters to your day to day conversations, you will IMMEDIATELY notice a huge difference in the kinds of conversation you have and where they lead. Seriously, those two things are powerful filters.
Anyway, I just realized that all of the conversation here about war comes from a people that probably (?) don't have much experience with negotiation. Virtually all comments that I have read thus far (except for the one person in another thread that worked in sales) doesn't seem to understand just how much power they really have.
We do have tremendous negotation power. We need to start teaching people how to use it.
I appreciate what you're trying to do here, iterate options, and keep morale up.
My assessment is the white identity option is a losing angle not because there aren't people questioning the "white bad, black saintly!" narrative. The problem is the talented tenth fuck up any sort of counter-messaging. If anything the banks are afraid of any sort of black-left + white-right unity, thats how I see it. Not that that is ultimately a winning move. Only that the pentagon still has occasional bad dreams about occupy before the race-division strategy they magnified in 2008.
Also, it loses us the veterans, which will be needed in any mass strategy, peaceful or not. Without which, there is no win.
Theres no getting around that if you even want the chance of keeping things peaceful.
What if white people started taking money out of banks
Narrative control by the media always allows them to divert from this issue, demotive, or reframe in a way that destroys any momentum or movement they want. It is the eye of sauron as it were.
So its an issue of whats the bigger issue, and the bottleneck is the media. Every time.
Nothing gets done with the media in the way unless an order of magnitude more effort is put into it that wouldn't otherwise be needed.
We do have tremendous negotiation power. We need to start teaching people how to use it.
I think that is an absolutely excellent angle. How do we frame it as part mission, part process, part
particular cause, and particular goal?
People need something to work towards before they except accept political processes.
Thats why we have political dogfights. The purpose is to get people to vote at all, and "buy in" to accepting
the outcome and all that entails.
And voting, giving consent, is a process.
Same thing here.
Negotiating is a process. Thats what we want people to do. How do we bring them to the table. Whats the cause? Whats the fight here?
I could say "mandates" or "masks" but thats a given. What demographic, what jobs to focus on, what segments. How do we reach them. Who do we reach them through.
Middle-aged women (40s up) on twitter unironically have a pretty big influence but they're mostly stuck in the trump-told-me-to-sit-on-my-hands-and-trust-the-plan complacency funnel.
Now we are talking. The right question is HOW? How indeed.
Let's talk about some of our victories so far:
1) Media - we have our own media. I am not the only one that no longer reads ANY media except alt alt tech. Yes, the same bias mechanisms exist here as on the left, yes this place is full of glow niggers and kikes but I gotta tell ya, all of the people on all of these boards don't take fools lightly.
I love the fucking fight in a lot of these places.
We also have shows like Red Ice. Have you EVER seen a more humble, more honest couple? I mean, if you watch that show for a while and you get the feel for the kinds of people those two are in their god given souls, IMAGINE how infuriated people like me are now at the banks and other power structures that have tried to shut them down and make their life a miserable hell?
This kind of stuff is BIG. I wouldn't underestimate the power of shows like Red Ice.
2) Infrastructure - we had nothing 5 years ago, we now have tons with more that need to come online.
3) Lazyness - 5 years our people were soooooo comfortable. Hell they were comfy this January. Not any longer.
4) Community - 5 year ago there was Stormfront and the occasional website that was formatted in 1991 html and completely incomprehensible. Today, we have quite large commuities and everywhere we go and are allowed to speak freely, we UTTERLY DOMINATE every community to such a degree at best you get 35% downvotes and ZERO counter arguments. It's actually quite startling how much rhetorical power we have.
5) ANTI CRT MOVEMENTS - These are small but we are starting to see parents get VERY fucking angry and showing up for school board meetings. There are a ton of videos of angry white women (and some men) walking up to those podiums and tearing pieces out of the communist boards.
6) CLARITY ON THE LEGAL SYSTEM - Derek Chauvin showed all white people now KNOW that the legal system is against them. A HUGE numbe rof white people now see the legal system for what it is.
And on and on. We have made great strides. I think this is just the beginning.
Our biggest weaknesses are banks and the military. Everything else is a soft problem.
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