but there are crazy people everywhere and all the three letters can do is setup a few guys that are not mentally quite there.
if the three letters were even remotely competent they would do what the military does to other countries.
They've been catching little fish for years.
If they want a definite and lasting win, waco style mass murders are useless.
They had something with the boogaloo boys, but ultimately the feds are god-fucking-awful at pretending not to be feds.
They've held on so tight-fistedly to the hands and throat of the right that all they have left is loons.
What they should be doing is letting up on the reins, building the seed networks, and thinking bigger.
They could kill any incipient non-peaceful movement now, simply by manufacturing the very movements that are bit by bit already forming in america.
They always jump the gun, go in for the little fish. The easy win. They're lazy, impatient, and greedy. Look at the whitmar plot. Three fourths of the guys were occupation informants.
But if they'd grown that for 3-5 years, they could own the militia movement in the u.s. The problem is, they try stupid shit like the leader of the three percenters, pure theatrics, and they don't focus on the fundamentals.
if the federal government truly wants americans disarmed, there are exactly three ways to get it
mass starvation/killer disease, with aid given only in exchange for firearms, ammo, and related items.
external war which they "lose" nd bring in peacekeeping forces as a consequence (fat chance)
build a big ass "revolutionary" movement, with key operators at various choke points of control, basically the whitmar maneuver but bigger than the 1990s movement. And then take it to the precipice of war, and strategically sabotage it from within, before dismantling it, and demonizing them as the "prototype" of gun owners. Christianity for example doesn't say "oh heres, a little devil on your shoulder."
No, it has a big massive icon of sin, the devil himself. Same applies. No one gave a shit for more than five minutes, about the whitmar plot. Standard fare. People were bored of it in two weeks.
If it had been 100 times the size of that, people all across the nation might have started real conversations about it.
So when I think of things like this, when I think about this, what I'm really trying to do is anticipate problems, or what the state might be planning or doing.
But being in that mode all the time, its kind of hard to see our options.
I guess, feeling powerless, is exactly what being demoralized is about.
Tactically, when they are desperate to do is draw us out into violence because once they have that they can literally just shoot us. On the surface of it it sounds like game hunting but they don't need to shoot us all just a few of us to send a message, because the WHOLE idea is not shooting people, the whole idea is to CONVENIENTLY help our people forget all of the strengths that they have at the negotiating table.
Really lays it out in a solid way.
Ultimately I think they already got that narrative with the marine they recently framed for murder. Yep. Thats what that was in hindsight, the more I think about that news story. This is their next charlottesville.
They put the national guard around the white house for a reason.
I think they put the national guard around the white house, because they are planning worse than they've already done.
Honestly, it might be best if we start learning faster and changing strategies faster than them.
That takes organization and discipline, which tons of people would be eager and willing to do if the right could stop being infiltrated and destroyed as a political movement for five god damn minutes. It's like the feds own fucked up self-fulfilling prophecy.
fedgov: we have to disrupt, demonize, and destroy all these people because of their beliefs, otherwise they will become a threat to us! We have forseen it!
also fedgov: wtf why are they militarizing against us all of a sudden?
also fedgov: see we knew it all along! Thats why we have to clamp down harder.
also fedgov: escalates
the people: escalate.
also fedgov: wtf, why are they not deescalating?
also fedgov: No one could have ever forseen this outcome!
Absolutely excellent post. I cannot disagree with a single point.
You just helped me realize another rhetorical strength available to us: talking and planning EVERYTHING in an open and documented fashion.
For a while now I have been wondering if a movement needs secrecy or if it can plan in the open. If you have secrecy you have the advanage of surprise but you lose on the optics front because eventually you have to step out of the shadows. If you plan in the open you lose the advantage of surprise but you win the optics war.
Sometimes when I read posts like yours I wonder if we are giving up too much to the enemy. However, as I was reading through this discussion, there are A LOT of people that would be energized and engaged by a much larger strategic conversation that discussed all of this in the open.
I have known this for a while, but now I can read it as well, we hold the ABSOLUTE MORAL HIGHGROUND in any possible conversation around this topic. There isn't a single rhetorical wedge that I can see that can be placed into our position such that it either doesn't make sense or it loses explanatory and predictive power.
Now that I think about it, our enemies weren't hiding exactly either. They all published their stuff in the open. Maybe it's time we look into doing the same our selves.
Now that I think about it, our enemies weren't hiding exactly either. They all published their stuff in the open. Maybe it's time we look into doing the same our selves.
Open planning and open meeting.
Fuck it, why not.
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