As with everything the government says and does, there is a mix of truth and lie in it all. There are some things that they do that are evil lies and they lock up the files for it for a lifetime, like JFK and more recently the jewflu jab data. There are also things that they hide the lies in committee retellings of the events, like 9/11 and the Warren Commission.
The moon landings are a bit different. They didn't lock up the files nor did they need a commission to craft the story in a particular narrative. The whole space race thing was too public to easily lie about it or fake it because the rest of the world was able to verify certain aspects of the events that could not be faked. Because of that, I have to err on the side of the moon landings happening for real, but with the publicly visible version of the story being highly edited or simulated.
Why do that? Simple. They couldn't afford to have anything they were unaware of beforehand get out on live TV. They needed to ensure that if they discovered anything that might be a threat (or advantage) to the US that they could see and handle it before it got out in the public. Also, if disaster had struck and the crew were killed, they could reduce the impact or sweep it under the rug more easily by delaying and editing the data/transmissions. The local TV and radio stations do this all the time so that they don't get caught in a situation that would be bad for them if broadcasted. CNN failed to do this on NYE and got trolled by fake twatter accounts.
So yeah, I believe it happened but that we were given a different view of the whole thing. The technology we gained from the moonshot program is too real to be something that they just faked on a movie set with Kubrick. The truth is a mix of reality and fictional creation. That's basically what all of reality is for us the last 100 years or longer.
How about this: the general public is so fucking retarded that they will believe whatever the idiot box tells them to believe. Even that the Apollo LM landed on the moon.
The general public does fit your description, but individually some people don't. I don't form my opinions on this matter by what the TV says. I form them by my own research into the things that went alongside of the moon landings. It's hard to explain away the extreme effort and engineering that went into some aspects of the support equipment and technologies if they were not needed to fake the whole thing. I find it interesting that so many people will believe that free energy technology is 100% real and suppressed by the government but those same people believe the moon landing is fake. It really says a lot about what those people really do want out of the world and the truth.
There’s no doubt that the Saturn 5 rocket was an incredible feat of engineering that pushed the envelope of what mankind was technologically capable of achieving in the 1960’s. The lunar module, on the other hand, was pure science fiction.
There was a lot of pressure to put a man on the moon by the end of the 60’s, and the U.S. invested a tremendous amount of resources to achieve this end. But it just wasn’t possible with the technology of the day, so NASA decided if they couldn’t make it they were gonna fake it.
And you’re right, some of these guys talk shit about not having the technology to put a man on the moon, and out of the other side of their mouths they talk about how the gov possesses advanced alien technology, it’s kind of humorous.
I'm very much in line with what you've written. Here is something I wrote on it a while ago but never posted. I think it is still a possibility as it does help to explain a few things that seem a little odd to me, but as I haven't yet learned enough about them to properly understand whether they're normal and expected I just tried to formulate something that seemed plausible to account for them until I acquire more knowledge on the matters.
(*Edited a sentence. I should have re-read what I had written before pasting it and hitting send, or re-written it all over again to be up to date with what my current thoughts on the topic are.)
I believe that it did happen, but that the first landing actually occurred quite some time before the 'live' broadcast to the public. What was shown to the public was not fully 'live', but was instead a combination of live participants (actors, directors, controllers) following a script and fake interacting with both original landing footage, the ongoing live landing, and also with footage of re-created scenes to help with blending and selling the production as occurring perfectly and as planned.
The United States government couldn't afford for the event to be anything short of absolutely perfect, let alone risk it being unsuccessful, due to the political world climate at the time. They needed it to be successful and for this success to be seen by the world as having occurred perfectly as planned and without issues.
Can you imagine the world watching the astronauts suffocating live on air due to a pinhole leak in a seal, or as they burned alive in a cabin fire (as happened during testing of the module and which demanded a total redesign)?
A total failure being broadcast live and to the whole world would have been extremely detrimental to the status and power of the United States government and its military on the world stage, as well as damaging to the US citizenry's view of their government and their nation's power and status. It was also an event of great national pride that it was the United States that took this step for all mankind. If the US got egg on its face in front of the whole world right when nations were barely restrained from going to war, who knows what might have come about as a result.
- It was likely a controlled and scripted presentation with a mix of pre-recorded footage from when the successful landing actually did occur combined with some live footage as well as re-created and custom-scripted scenes.
- As it was likely live elements synced in with the pieces of edited recordings, perhaps aspects of the original footage couldn't be shown, or aspects might not have occurred ideally, or possibly that some scenes would require scripting and had to be re-created via a 'set' like a movie in order to re-create some scenes as they wanted them to be presented. This would also explain the Kubrick connection, as well as the inconsistencies of why some footage seems to have elements that are out of place or inconsistent with what would be expected in reality, while most of the other footage does have those elements behaving as would be expected in reality.
- I doubt that they would have been able to rehearse most or even much of it at all beforehand, so it likely required controllers and directors for instructing the participants of when to make responses or to ask certain questions in order to keep timing and syncing between the live actions of participants, the actual landing footage, and re-created footage. (such as there being background voices in some recordings counting down/up for when to respond to a live question to try to simulate and account for distance and signal delay, etc.)
- With a mixture of original footage and re-created footage being interacted with by live participants with a script, directors and controllers, it would have appeared much like it did. You could imagine it as a sort of stage play with actors who interact with a recording on a TV (or even think Jurassic Park with "John Hammond" interacting with the recording of himself on the screen).
That's a great expansion of the basic concept I put out there. You really filled it in with some good reasoning and thought. While we may never be able to verify any version of the truth, this one does seem the most plausible since it is something we have seen happen in recent times, namely the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing. They faked a lot the opening and closing ceremony footage so they could look flawless on the world stage. They also temporarily scrubbed the city of all the bad things they didn't want the world to see on live TV and cleaned up the air pollution by banning cars and industry during those days. The Beijing Olympics did actually happen, but we were shown a modified version of the truth of its happening.
I pretty much see it from the same point of view
TBQH the lie behind the space race was the most likely (I have zero evidence) enormous weapons programs behind every technological advancement gained. The space race was just a convenient, believable, and generally good coverstory.
You see, this is more plausible of an explanation of the whole thing than most other versions. It's the truth wrapped in lies in order to obscure the real purpose of the program. The Manhattan Project was like that too. There's always more to it than meets the eye, but the "it's fake" narrative is just part of the obfuscation they want. We may never know the truth, but I'm pretty certain we will eventually uncover most of it.
Yes. There are definitely programs that are 100% shrouded in (((secrecy))) which have been cracked open by prying minds. Those like MKUltra and other pseudo mind control (more mind destruction) programs.
But global, world changing events that completely rock science to it's core and turn out literally trillions of dollars in advancements? Those aren't faked.
Absolutely there's an umbrella of secrecy behind the how, why, who, and what. But to claim those mean the entire idea of "the thing" is fake is laughable.
This guy writes well for a fucking retard who believes we went to the moon... you stupid fucking moron it is beyond obvious we didn't go to the fucking moon
With every single post you make you out yourself further and further. The nose is showing at an alarming rate and you should step back like 4 yards.
You attack me using a randomly spun up and not-so-intricately woven lie of;
AntiClutch is ran by multiple people, sometimes reasonable and good but often jewish and bad!!!
That just randomly popped up from half a dozen blue accounts that are all now banned and who were all auto-shoahed. What you do when you reply to me like that and then further to Morbo like this is further cement our value to poal. I wish I could be as concise, well written, and formulaic as or . I do. But I can't. I've gone through some shit that I wouldn't wish on shills like yourself. It would destroy you. These are the reasons why I'm so angry constantly. I have reason to be. I also understand opsec, unlike you. So I will never share details of these with anyone.
But all of your claims are based off of laughably easy to disprove falsities. I've done so with 2 already in this thread. All it takes is grade 4 math. That's it. Nothing exceptional.
You are the worst among us. You push and push and push and push some jewish line, like (((flat Earth))) then as people start to see the nose, you walk it back.
Again u stupid cents put words I never said.
Once again you stupid lying kike. I am not a flat earthen. I have said multiple times their videos bring up serious questions and I am now in a weird place I don't know what the truth is about globe or flat but we have been lied too.
Math do the 8 inches per mile drop on something the size as the globtards say the earth is and a lot of math problems arise...
Ohhh ahit which of your Jewish personalities is on the clock today
Schlomo glodbergengoldstein aka anticlutch.
Fuck off shill I refuse to block even crazy fucking psychos like you
It is beyond obvious that Trump and Q are (((psyops))) but you still believe they are not. Reconcile that.
Holy fucking shit you kikes
I have talked against Trump multiple times I have said he is a jew fucktard. I also am glad he said the media is the enemy of the people and did a couple kinda good things but over all he is most likely another jew puppet gate keeper look at his cabnet...
Q again not a Q Tard but seeing the organized shill attacks and the media hate for the Q and Trump people makes me think maybe something is going on.
Am I trusting the plan no.. I'm doing the 6 things all white males should do
What do the anticlutch and morbo type faggots do? Nothing complain and offer no alternatives no hope no positive message just jew shill type activity
there is a mix of truth and lie in it all.
There can never be an abundance of lies that actually counterbalance the small amount of 'truth' so as to make the truth of no significance?
>The whole space race thing was too public to easily lie about it or fake it because the rest of the world was able to verify certain aspects of the events that could not be faked.
The jews don't run the world in a monolithic way?
>The technology we gained from the moonshot program is too real to be something that they just faked on a movie set with Kubrick. The truth is a mix of reality and fictional creation
This is conjecture with little supportive evidence
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