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I never considered Telegram to be safe or private, but it was too convenient for semi-normies to get them to use anything else.

This is what someone recommend, but someone also commented that Session is likely compromised and a honeypot:

Briar "Censorship-resistant peer-to-peer messaging that bypasses centralized servers. Connect via Bluetooth, Wi-Fi or Tor, with privacy built-in."

Session "Session is an end-to-end encrypted messenger that minimises sensitive metadata, designed and built for people who want absolute privacy and freedom from any form of surveillance."

XMPP The original 25 year old open-source instant messaging standard.

Settin up an own Matrix server with Element would also be great, but might be a bit too complicated.

I never considered Telegram to be safe or private, but it was too convenient for semi-normies to get them to use anything else. This is what someone recommend, but someone also commented that Session is likely compromised and a honeypot: >Briar "Censorship-resistant peer-to-peer messaging that bypasses centralized servers. Connect via Bluetooth, Wi-Fi or Tor, with privacy built-in." >Session "Session is an end-to-end encrypted messenger that minimises sensitive metadata, designed and built for people who want absolute privacy and freedom from any form of surveillance." >XMPP The original 25 year old open-source instant messaging standard. Settin up an own Matrix server with Element would also be great, but might be a bit too complicated.

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I mean there's Signal, but Signal's desktop app is absolute garbage (the mobile app is pretty similar to Telegram), and you have to give your phone number. I tried Session for a while but it isn't really catching on.

There was Status.im but I think that got killed off or something. I'm also looking for alternatives right now (funnily enough, I started this a month back, just from a gut feeling that someone was going to happen to Telegram).

EDIT: Also there's gurk-rs for Signal for tui fans (such as myself), but it's a bad UI, basically cramming a graphical interface into a terminal app. And won't display images of course (no icat support afaik), and with the few normies I keep in touch with via Telegram, images are an integral part of our conversations.

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Stay away from Signal, it's 100% glowie app. Look it up on here, I'm sure there is info on it.

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You give your phone number. The sessions don't record (AFAIK) any of the data you send, but you're identified as using the service.

Credit reporting companies use your phone number to identify you, so it's easy enough to tie number to you.