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I never considered Telegram to be safe or private, but it was too convenient for semi-normies to get them to use anything else.

This is what someone recommend, but someone also commented that Session is likely compromised and a honeypot:

Briar "Censorship-resistant peer-to-peer messaging that bypasses centralized servers. Connect via Bluetooth, Wi-Fi or Tor, with privacy built-in."

Session "Session is an end-to-end encrypted messenger that minimises sensitive metadata, designed and built for people who want absolute privacy and freedom from any form of surveillance."

XMPP The original 25 year old open-source instant messaging standard.

Settin up an own Matrix server with Element would also be great, but might be a bit too complicated.

I never considered Telegram to be safe or private, but it was too convenient for semi-normies to get them to use anything else. This is what someone recommend, but someone also commented that Session is likely compromised and a honeypot: >Briar "Censorship-resistant peer-to-peer messaging that bypasses centralized servers. Connect via Bluetooth, Wi-Fi or Tor, with privacy built-in." >Session "Session is an end-to-end encrypted messenger that minimises sensitive metadata, designed and built for people who want absolute privacy and freedom from any form of surveillance." >XMPP The original 25 year old open-source instant messaging standard. Settin up an own Matrix server with Element would also be great, but might be a bit too complicated.

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Tox is an encrypted P2P service that you connect with your hash. There are no servers. It's inconvenient in the sense that you have no usernames, just hashes.

Briar is, for the most part, Android only. They have an (old) desktop beta client. Don't know much about Session XMPP is great in that you can host your own server, if you want. It's a poor mobile choice, however.

I don't think Telegram is out of the picture, there are more people working on it than just the founder. He may break, however, and give up backdoor keys, who knows.

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He may break, however, and give up backdoor keys, who knows.

That's what worries me.

What about android keyboard apps? Google keyboard is without doubt a spyware on it's own. I know phones are all basically tracking devices, but I just want to make it as difficult as possible for them to get my info. Make them earn that mossad wage.

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You'll need to give up electronic communications, then.

[–] • 3 pts

Stop trying to bring back messenger pigeons, I'm not changing one beaks for another beaks.

[–] • 1 pt

there's also urbit but we're leaving the realm of normies here

[–] • 0 pt

I'm looking at that and it's...kind of what is this?

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it's basically encrypted and decentralized computing, a new realm of computing. i've been following them for almost a decade or whatever, they're not really ready for wide-spread adoption yet. but it would make it impossible for govts to be in control of anything on the internet