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Done that before. Frustrating. For what is worth its unlikely I haven't heard it before.
At its most fundamental, a lot of this boils down to relative moralism. While every atheist I've exchanged with have assured me they are the paragons of morality, it's simply unreasonable and unrealistic to believe it applies to humanity as a whole. As such, atheism can only ever lead to societal destruction and terrible evils upon mankind. At least until humanity evolves more.
I admittedly get frustrated how something so obvious and unquestionably true can be debated to death. It's simply a question of time. Yet for some reason most people are unable to see humanity for who we are.
In a nutshell, the purpose of religion is moral guidance and hope for the less intelligent. I acknowledged the detrimental effect of the jews weaponizing atheism on those people as they lack the intelligence to naturally adopt morals and values that are peaceful and support prosperity on their own.
I don't exactly consider myself a true atheist though. I still believe that some form of supernatural entity must exist [or did exist] for the initial energy/material to be put in place for what we refer to as "the big bang".
I do not believe Moses actually talked to a burning bush though. I don't believe that any supernatural power has directly influenced mankind. All of that is a myth for adults similar to the idea of Santa Claus that is told to children.
In a nutshell, the purpose of religion is moral guidance and hope for the less intelligent.
Intelligence is independent of morality. Moral relativism frequently appeals to the very intelligent because they are intelligent and therefore know better. Likewise, absolutely anything can become morally justified with moral relativism. Anything. Including horrors against mankind.
Atheism isn't the only one targeted. Christianity is frequently subverted by the same people. But atheism is one of their foremost weapons to subvert everything. Including christianity. With it brings moral relativism and the fall of man.
The biggest problem people have is ignorance of our past. It took me a long time to figure out why jewish gatekeepers exist on archeology and anthropology. Why historical fact was constantly pushed into the realm of myth and legend (example, Troy and Atlantis) and Out of Africa.
"While every atheist I've exchanged with have assured me they are the paragons of morality"
Let me be the first to admit I'm not, but I do have a moral paradigm.
"At its most fundamental, a lot of this boils down to relative moralism."
What do you mean by "moral relativism"? There exists a good bass for morality in simple philosophy, the problem is that you never consider it, neither to marxists TBH, both of you are just so damn focused on pushing your pet ideology as the only possible source of moral direction, that you fail to even look for an alternative to your own.
"I admittedly get frustrated how something so obvious and unquestionably true can be debated to death." But it's not true. It's not true that atheists believe that morality is relative, because I'm atheist, and I do not buy into that premise. AND it's not true that Christianity is the only possible source of morality, because my morals come from somewhere else. AND it's not like I haven't laid it all out for your type elsewhere on this site. AND it's not any off it refers to God, the afterlife, or other supernatural concepts.
What I am seeing is a bunch of people who came to the white right from mainstream conservatism or libertarianism, a bunch of people who think like boomer christians did in the days of the "god wars" on youtube's earlier days (back when "the god delusion" first came out), I'm seeing the same tired arguments I did then, because you were stuck in that ideological bubble and are just coming out of it now, now you are socked to find atheists here, and you are trying to make us more like mainstream conservatism or mainstream libertarianism.
Like a liberal who moves out of california and starts pushing their sjw shit in texas, to make it more like california.
The only difference here is that you stopped calling atheists racists for believing in evolution and not having a lot of shitskins, and calling us nazis, because you claimed Hitler was an atheist and so was his entire movement, and of course we lack morality so we'd become the thing your cultural environment considered to be the apex of evil at the time, now you call us the jews. The conclusion is predetermined, the arguments are rehashed, and it's all so tiring to see this shit again.
Hey fuckhead, I came to the white right through atheism, it was science that led me here, it was rational and critical thought that brought me to the conclusions I have about politics today, the thing that you thought would make me a marxist is what made me a white nationalist. My story isn't even unusual, we had the first large names of the far right come out of atheists and atheism, conservative groups like (((prager u))) pointed that out over and over again. So, what conclusions can you draw from that?
Your summary is just wrong. In fact, my position clearly violates one of your claims.
As for your "correction" on my phrasing, you can clearly see it's not required and that I do understand what I said. But you "corrected" anyways. So as to reestablish "authority." Which really says you feel inferior and threatened. Which is reinforced by the baseless and bizarre ad hominem thrown in at the end.
We both know what this means. Your afraid I'm right but you now comment to convince yourself otherwise.
I don't understand what you are saying.
My summary of what i think i see is wrong, okay, but its what i feel like i seeing, from behind a screen i can just guess.
what position of yours violates which of my claims?
I did not make any correction.
I will say that i think i feel threatened, because as a prowhite atheist id be kicked out of the only home ive had for decades now, and id have no where else to go when your type co-opts the movement, i also think it undermines us and what we fight for, and that you are possibly trying to sabotage the whole dissident effort doing this.
all you do is come in with lazy stereotypes about how we in the dissident movement are all exactly like the ones we fight against on the basis of religious status, strange you never .do the same regarding the far more populous christians on the left.
your entire approach is just ad hominem, generalization, and coming in to tell us what we believe and what we are like, getting it so far off the mark in the process.
last is that even if my assessment of you is wrong, the statement that you are carbon copies of the christians we saw in the days of the new atheist movement debates on youtube is right on the money, you are using all the same argument styles, which amounts to making judgement after judgment on atheists for being what you claim we are like, and often getting it dead wrong.
you just insult us, over and over, until every hates us because they associate us with that sterotype you keep accusing us of fitting into.
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