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A women's capital is her youth, appearance, fertility, and ability to nest (home making). All of which, save the last, are peaking at 16-20

Careful with that thin line. Normalization of pedophilia is a violation of the ToS.

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This isn't pedo normalization. It certainly is not my objective. This is a historically accurate description of why those norms once existed. Also, this is in the context of marriage, not random abuse of children.

If you feel discussing historical norms and why they existed violate the TOS I'll delete or modify the comment.

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Also, this is in the context of marriage, not random abuse of children.

Ask these young girls if they had a say in the arranged and forced marriages.

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I certainly hear that. This was certainly a time when fathers approved of the potential husband and the potential husband was expected to have proof of a path for success. Father's paid a dowry. Also, in theory, providing limited protection against the abuses you specifically warned me against discussion. Historically these marriages were stronger and more successful. Also because the girl passed from her father's house to her husband's house; during formative years of brain development. As women have obtained more power to determine their own marriage, statistically they have been less happy and far less successful. Women remain the number one driver of divorce.

These stats are still reflected in most of the world where arranged marriages remain common. Couples who learn to deal with each other as partners for success, rather than sexualized children (as is the norm today), IMOHO, are far more likely to enjoy long term success. Of course, that requires a social fabric which supports marriage and their family's success.

Children are often told what to do for their own happiness in the long run. Why is one of their biggest decisions of their life exempt? Even women from periods of time where arranged marriages were semi-normal, women still opposed women's suffrage.

Then: blood lines, wealth, success, all intended to create happiness. Sex was part of the blood line deal.

Today: "She's so hot." "He's so hot." "Let's get married." Then everyone is shocked and surprised they divorced.

This is one of the problems with young marriage today as the societal norms do not in any way support marriage of young girls to young men. Accordingly, it's now far more likely to bring about abuse (divorce is far too easy, leaving the girl destroyed). That's extremely bad and one of the huge problems with the Mormons. Thus the importance to note I was speaking of history and not advocating the position given the realities to today's world. Society is not in a position to support this and such advocacy (under 18) can only leave girls destroyed, with children, on the wayside.

To come full circle, I'm not ideologically opposed to arranged marriages so long as they are specifically for the well being of those involved and not sorted trades of young girls.