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My key does not have anything special or electronic about it. Its just a round shaft that expands at the last half inch with blocks carved into it, it really should not be that difficult to reproduce. like these https://files.catbox.moe/amb4iu.jpg

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I'd guess that it's in the plastic bit at the top. It's just a resistor at a special frequency. It has been in cars since the early 90s.

I'd be legitimately shocked if you didn't have one, especially on a Jag.

I'd say take the key apart, but you might break it. It's nothing huge and it can be embedded in the metal part of the key itself.

Yeah, scroll down on this page:

https://lost-car-keys-replacement.com/jaguar/

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It does not appear to come apart. There is the keyfob thing that is separate thats supposed to unlock the doors and open the trunk wirelessly, but the battery died in that a long time ago and it needs to be reprogrammed. I just use the key holes on the car

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No, it's embedded in the metal or in the plastic. The chip is permanent and doesn't get replaced of anything. In a car your age it's just a resistor that has to match. It lets a specific amount of current through the chip which the car recognizes and allows it to start. That way nobody can just make a physical copy of your key and start it. If you scroll down, you'll see that your key has said chip.

The good news? It's less expensive than modern ones. Modern ones are fancy and change the encryption key every time the vehicle is started. They use rotating encryption.

By the way, if you get an old cop car - the old Crown Vics (among other fleet vehicles) your key will work in any other fleet vehicle. You can cross the country and find another fleet Crown Vic and start it - unless the fleet manager selected one of the six different key styles. If they did, you have a 1:6 chance of having a key that starts it. The default was the top most selection and that key works in all the other fleet vehicles from the same generation that have that key. Most fleet managers just took the default key.

Yup... Some departments still use them - as do many cab companies. You can hop in them, try six keys, and drive away in it.