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Probably a repost as I am not sure where I got this link, it was in my bookmarks folder.

Probably a repost as I am not sure where I got this link, it was in my bookmarks folder.

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Very bad comparison and it shows how little you know about the pact. First off, It was Hitler that went to Soviet Union to negotiate this pact, not the other way around. This is despite knowing the crimes that the Soviet Union has committed. The Soviet Union and Germany attacked Poland together and the Soviet Union got a piece of Poland and Hitler was all fine and dandy with that, despite knowing what the Soviet Union does to the native people when it conquers their land. The Soviet Union went on to conquer other nations shortly after, this was all made possible due to the pact and all with Hitler knowledge.

A better comparison would be.. I am going to pretend to befriend you despite knowing what an evil son of a bitch you are and I will attack you later when the time is right, but in the meantime, we can work together and I will allow you to do the evil deeds I know you will do and that will not bother me at all.

I don't give a shit if Hitler later went on to attack the Soviet Union, his pact made the Soviet Union more victorious than it did Germany at the end of the day did it not? Why do you think Stalin was so ecstatic when the pact was signed? Take a look at the pictures, he looks VERY happy because he knew what he would be able to do now.

And by the time Hitler attacked the Soviet Union, the atrocities committed that was made possible because of the pact had already happened. You think the Soviet Union would've dared to be so bold in their territorial expansion if it weren't for this pact? Don't be a retard.

Secondly, the pact kept getting expanded and it was more than just a 'non-aggression' pact. Here's what happened as a result of this pact;

  1. Soviet expanded its territory. It gave them Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and parts of Romania.

  2. Led to many atrocities at the hand of the Soviets. 34250 Latvians, 75,000 Lithuanians and almost 60,000 Estonians were deported or killed. 100,000 arrested Poles, deported between 350,000 and 1,500,000 of whom between 250,000 and 1,00,000 died, mostly civilians.

  3. The Gestapo worked together with the NKVD, known as the Gestapo-NKVD Conferences. Soviet NKVD officers also conducted interrogations of 300,000 Polish POWs in camps, that were in effect a process to determine who would be killed. 25,700 was selected for execution which later became known as the 'Katyn Forest Massacre'. One of the signees of the memorandum sent from Beria to Stalin asking for the permission of the execution of the Polish POWs was the foreign minister of the Soviet Union, Molotov. A man Hitler met in 1940 months after the Katyn Forest Massacre.

  4. It also covered the migration to Germany within two and a half months of ethnic Germans and German citizens in Soviet-Held Baltic territories and the migration of Soviet Union of Baltic and ''White Russian'' nationals in German-held territories. We can pretty much guess what happened to these White Russians that were sent back to the Soviet Union..

  5. They helped boost each others war effort;

Helped Germany to surmount a British blockade of Germany. Germany received one million tons of cereals, half a million tons of wheat, 900,000 tons of oil, 100,000 tons of cotton, 500,000 tons of phosphates and considerable amounts of other vital raw material along with transit of one million tons of soybeans from Manchuria. These supplies were transported from Soviet occupied territories to Germany. Soviet also helped Germany avoid British naval blockade by providing a submarine base, Basis Nord, in the northern Soviet Union.

Soviets provided Germany with access to Northern Sea Route for both cargo ships and raiders.

Soviets were to receive a naval cruiser, the plan to the battleship Bismarck, heavy naval guns, other naval gear and thirty of Germany's latest warplanes. Soviets were to receive oil and electric equipment, locomotives, turbines, generators, diesel engines, ships, machine tools and samples of German artillery, tanks, explosives, chemical warfare equipment and other items.

Yes, the Allied were evil and criminal to the core. They were the evil side. Yes, the Soviet Union was behind the Katyn Forest and it was covered up...I already pointed that out.. However this is not the point of this discussion.