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The laconia incident was a series of events surrounding the sinking of a british troopship in the atlantic ocean on 12 september 1942, during world war ii, and a subsequent aerial attack on german and italian submarines involved in rescue attempts. rms laconia, carrying 2,732 crew, passengers, soldiers and prisoners of war, was torpedoed and sunk by u-156, a german u-boat, off the west african coast. operating partly under the dictates of the old prize rules, the u-boat commander, korvettenkapitän werner hartenstein, immediately commenced rescue operations. u-156 broadcast her position on open radio channels to all allied powers nearby, and were joined by the crews of several other u-boats in the vicinity.

after surfacing and picking up survivors, who were accommodated on the foredeck, u-156 headed on the surface under red cross banners to rendezvous with vichy french ships and transfer the survivors. en route, the u-boat was spotted by a b-24 liberator bomber of the us army air forces. the aircrew, having reported the u-boat's location, intentions and the presence of survivors, were then ordered to attack the sub. the b-24 killed dozens of laconia's survivors with bombs and strafing attacks, forcing u-156 to cast into the sea the remaining survivors that she had rescued, and to crash dive to avoid being destroyed.

rescue operations were continued by other vessels. another u-boat, u-506, was also attacked by us aircraft and forced to dive. a total of 1,113 survivors were rescued; however, 1,619 were killed—mostly italian pows. the event changed the general attitude of germany's naval personnel towards rescuing stranded allied seamen. the commanders of the kriegsmarine were quickly issued the laconia order by grand admiral karl dönitz, which specifically forbade any such attempt and ushered in unrestricted submarine warfare for the remainder of the war.

the b-24 pilots mistakenly reported they had sunk u-156, and were awarded medals for bravery. neither the us pilots nor their commander were punished or investigated, and the matter was quietly forgotten by the us military. during the later nuremberg trials, a prosecutor attempted to cite the laconia order as proof of war crimes by dönitz and his submariners. the ploy backfired and caused much embarrassment to the united states after the incident's full report had emerged.

the laconia incident had far-reaching consequences. up until that point, it was common for u-boats to assist torpedoed survivors with food, water, simple medical care for the wounded, and a compass bearing to the nearest landmass.28 it was extremely rare for survivors to be brought on board as space on a u-boat was barely enough for its own crew. on 17 september 1942, in response to the incident, admiral karl dönitz issued an order named triton null, later known as the laconia order. in it, dönitz prohibited u-boat crews from attempting rescues; survivors were to be left in the sea. even afterwards, u-boats still occasionally provided aid for survivors.

at the nuremberg trials held by the allies in 1946, dönitz was indicted for war crimes. the issuance of the laconia order was the centrepiece of the prosecution case, a decision that backfired badly. its introduction allowed the defence to recount at length the numerous instances in which german submariners acted with humanity where in similar situations the allies behaved callously. dönitz pointed out that the order itself was a direct result of this callousness and the attack on a rescue operation by us aircraft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/laconia_incident

The laconia incident was a series of events surrounding the sinking of a british troopship in the atlantic ocean on 12 september 1942, during world war ii, and a subsequent aerial attack on german and italian submarines involved in rescue attempts. rms laconia, carrying 2,732 crew, passengers, soldiers and prisoners of war, was torpedoed and sunk by u-156, a german u-boat, off the west african coast. operating partly under the dictates of the old prize rules, the u-boat commander, korvettenkapitän werner hartenstein, immediately commenced rescue operations. u-156 broadcast her position on open radio channels to all allied powers nearby, and were joined by the crews of several other u-boats in the vicinity. after surfacing and picking up survivors, who were accommodated on the foredeck, u-156 headed on the surface under red cross banners to rendezvous with vichy french ships and transfer the survivors. en route, the u-boat was spotted by a b-24 liberator bomber of the us army air forces. the aircrew, having reported the u-boat's location, intentions and the presence of survivors, were then ordered to attack the sub. the b-24 killed dozens of laconia's survivors with bombs and strafing attacks, forcing u-156 to cast into the sea the remaining survivors that she had rescued, and to crash dive to avoid being destroyed. rescue operations were continued by other vessels. another u-boat, u-506, was also attacked by us aircraft and forced to dive. a total of 1,113 survivors were rescued; however, 1,619 were killed—mostly italian pows. the event changed the general attitude of germany's naval personnel towards rescuing stranded allied seamen. the commanders of the kriegsmarine were quickly issued the laconia order by grand admiral karl dönitz, which specifically forbade any such attempt and ushered in unrestricted submarine warfare for the remainder of the war. the b-24 pilots mistakenly reported they had sunk u-156, and were awarded medals for bravery. neither the us pilots nor their commander were punished or investigated, and the matter was quietly forgotten by the us military. during the later nuremberg trials, a prosecutor attempted to cite the laconia order as proof of war crimes by dönitz and his submariners. the ploy backfired and caused much embarrassment to the united states after the incident's full report had emerged. the laconia incident had far-reaching consequences. up until that point, it was common for u-boats to assist torpedoed survivors with food, water, simple medical care for the wounded, and a compass bearing to the nearest landmass.28 it was extremely rare for survivors to be brought on board as space on a u-boat was barely enough for its own crew. on 17 september 1942, in response to the incident, admiral karl dönitz issued an order named triton null, later known as the laconia order. in it, dönitz prohibited u-boat crews from attempting rescues; survivors were to be left in the sea. even afterwards, u-boats still occasionally provided aid for survivors. at the nuremberg trials held by the allies in 1946, dönitz was indicted for war crimes. the issuance of the laconia order was the centrepiece of the prosecution case, a decision that backfired badly. its introduction allowed the defence to recount at length the numerous instances in which german submariners acted with humanity where in similar situations the allies behaved callously. dönitz pointed out that the order itself was a direct result of this callousness and the attack on a rescue operation by us aircraft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/laconia_incident

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Governments use wars to kill off their own people as much as the enemy.

were awarded medals for bravery

Imagine getting a shiny little cuck badge for killing your own men. I'd eat a shotgun.

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A lot of them do. I saw an advertisement today for idk. Basically keeping your guns under lock to keep veterans from offing themselves. That’s what it was. All I could think was how about you give them THE HELP THEY FUCKING NEED. No it’s HIDE THE GUNS. Makes me sick. They go fight for whatever but they do it Atleast in their minds for us and they get back home and they get thrown out into the streets or whatever other shitty Avenue meanwhile we feed any worthless nigger with a pulse

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Have you tried sending them dickpics to cherr them up?

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This is why its hard to draft older people for military service. They know all the bullshit.

You have to get them when "they are young, dumb and full of cum"

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das boot is the best movie i've seen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WJqJzbi3vI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOB_ZoIxQZg Kapitänleutnant: 'why didn't their own ships rescue them?'

p.s. Leutnant Werner reminds me of my grandpa. after pearl harbor, he enlisted, and was enthusiastic about serving. he was brave. i never saw him scared of anything. but, he and most people are too kind to be in a war. also, he and many soldiers in WW2 were < 20 years old. 1 of the points of das boot is the u-boat crews were mostly teenagers.

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Never saw the movie, but will do soon

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If this is true and frankly I don't trust any history anymore then once again turns out the ruthless ones were the Rothschild led Churchhills and Roosevelt's of the world war giving orders like that.

The Germans got tricked at the end of world war 1.

Then even after losing their lands the French invaded them and decided to take more.

And the whole time Hitler is saying and trying to get peace but Churchill is working for the bankers and they don't want Germany to be free of their banks or other countries will do it.

So Churchill paints Hitler as evil with that ridiculous guttersnipe speech.

Based on nothing. Meanwhile Churchill had set up the lusitiannia to be torpedoed by Germans by saying ot had weapons on board all so America would enter ww1. Churchill was the evil one. Hell even England got rid of him the minute ww2 was over.

Didn't Hitler spare the whole British army stranded on the beach?

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probly didn't want the ZOGbots figuring out the Germans were the good guys

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Submarine warfare was seen as dishonorable back then.