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You don' t know jack shit do you? . . .. I tell you why because this "no planes at Pearl Harbor" story is unmitigated BULLSHIT.

Get your emotions out of the way and you'll see things the way I do.

Again, how did the US government get hundreds of Japanese servicemen to lie? Their stories appeared in the Japanese media before the war ended.

They did? I am interested in your sources. I would like to see and read those articles.

How did they get thousands of Hawaiian residents to lie even decades after the war?

The truth is known throughout Hawaii.

How did they get thousands of US servicemen to lie even decades after the war?

Members of the US military do not have free speech. That is only for civilians.

Why would they all lie? Why wouldn't some of them spill the beans?

Americans seemed to be very gong-ho on killing Japanese and taking their body parts home as trophies. People who act like that might not reach the level of morality of somebody who would feel compelled to tell the truth.

Suppose their might have been a handful of US servicemen who were not like that. They would have likely been aware of the immorality of their fellow servicemen and the willing ignorance of the American public, most of whom would have held fast on to whatever the press presented to them as truth, regardless of the evidence presented.

What would be the point in them in commiting treason, condeming themselves and their loved ones to a certain death, while at the same time the truth is easy to discern from photographs?

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"I am interested in your sources."

The US government faked all this media created by the Japanese right?

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/pearl-harbor-japanese-perspective-1941/ https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/a0efd45c-37ef-445f-9d82-435233fdedd8_1.79014b116b234f7ce6f0f99994aa2081.jpeg https://archive.org/details/NPC-9272 https://archive.org/details/NPC-4266 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMzg5AVY-tA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cefkmXCWaHk

https://www.amazon.com/Pearl-Harbor-Japans-Attack-Americas/dp/1509537201/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Dr.+Takuma+Melber&qid=1639332010&s=apparel&sr=1-1

"The truth is known throughout Hawaii."

Yeah? Name one. Name one fucking person from Hawaii that said no planes attacked the island. Should be pretty easy if everyone on the island knew it, right?

"Members of the US military do not have free speech.'

Yet they still spoke out against the FDR regime for engineering the Pearl Harbor attack, the 911 inside job, the USS Liberty, or the downing of TWA Flight 800. Why were people still willing spill the beans on that but not the "no planes at Pearl Harbor" story.

Because its total fucking BULLSHIT. The other stories are just a damaging to the US government if not more so and the whistleblowers should have been just as afraid to talk but they did it anyway. Those stories are not bullshit. But you are full of BULLSHIT.

Its a story based on the supposed lack of evidence and a few tenuous inconstancies found 80 years later.

While the 'FDR Regime forced the Japanese into attack Pearl Harbor' story is based on copious amounts of documentary evidence and the EYEWITNESS testimony of THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of people.

You don't have JACK SHIT.

And let's pretend for two seconds that your fantasyland BULLSHIT has an ounce of truth to it. You aren't going to convince any sane person with it because you have NO FUCKING EVIDENCE. You can't even convince someone like me that believes in government conspiracies like the 911 and the USS Liberty. Why do I believe them? Because of the tons of HARD EVIDENCE and EYE WITNESS testimony that proves what happened. For fucks sake there is more evidence that the moon landing were faked than the BULLSHIT you are shoveling. What BULLSHIT stories like yours does is discredit real journalists and real truth seekers that try expose government crimes.

It doesn't matter if you are CIA disinfo plant are not because the damage you and bullshit stories like "no planes at Pearl Harbor" to the skeptic movement would be the same if you were a CIA disinfo plant. You are being ripped off because you should be drawing a paycheck from them.

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I saw some of your videos and they show Japanese aircraft flying out from ground bases. Something I wouldn't expect at the PH attack.

The newspaper that you sent says something about the start of a Pacific war, and something about Hong Kong, but I do not see Pearl Harbor (真珠湾) mentioned anywhere.

While the 'FDR Regime forced the Japanese into attack Pearl Harbor' story is based on copious amounts of documentary evidence and the EYEWITNESS testimony of THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of people.

You must consider what the eye witness account actually means. How does the eyewitness know, for instance, that it is a Japanese plane he/she was looking at? Was it the insignia? Insignias can be faked. The American carriers were not at the base during the incident. That's one place "Japanese" aircraft could have come from, if there were any aircraft with Japanese insignia in the air at the time.

There is no evidence that any damage was done from the air, meaning there was no dropping of ordnance. But there could have very well been American aircraft with foreign insignia in the air at the time.

To determine whether Pearl Harbor was a false-flag attack or not, we must take into account what the account actually means, and we must take into consideration that certainly fake accounts would be part of a false-flag attack.

Photographs show damage done from the ground. Damage that does not match Japanese weapons or the narrative of a Japanese attack. Ships floating, even those that are listed as having been "sunk." Photographs that show people on the day of the attack relaxed, and with their attention on the horizontal plane, even as "bombs" are going off.

You mentioned yourself 30 planes shot down with nothing but a couple of nuts and bolts left of them? Doesn't that seem strange to you?

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"they show Japanese aircraft flying out from ground bases. "

Yeah just point out the most irrelevant bits of the films. Aside from showing still pictures on Pearl Harbor from inside Jap planes DURING THE FUCKING ATTACK they also show a F/X sequences of Japanese planes attack battle ship row in Pearl Harbor. Its called hard evidence of which you do not have ONE FUCKING SHRED. Why the fuck would the Japanese make a propaganda film during the war showing their planes attacking Pearl Harbor if they actually didn't do it? It makes absolutely no fucking sense!

"How does the eyewitness know, for instance, that it is a Japanese plane he/she was looking at?"

Because the planes looked like Zeros and Kates (these were trained military personnel who are on the look out for Jap aircraft) and they were DROPPING FUCKING BOMBS on them and machine gunning them. They saw it with their own eyes. You can't produce ONE FUCKING WITNESS that contradicted them. NOT ONE!

You still can't explain why THOUSANDS of people, both military and civilian, would lie about seeing planes attacking with bomb and torpedoes. Not military or civilian.

You still can't produce one fucking person, just one, who was there that day that confirms your "no-planes, no bombs" bullshit fantasy story. I can produce people that tell the truth about 911, Oklahoma City, the USS Liberty, etc. You story is total, insane bullshit.

"fake accounts would be part of a false-flag attack."

One or two would be believable. THOUSANDS of people saw the Japanese dropping bombs and torpedoes with their own fucking eyes.

NOT ONE FUCKING PERSON has come forward with your bullshit "no planes, no bombs" fantasy.

"Photographs show damage done from the ground. "

Have you seen ALL the photographs taken that day. Was every fucking impact crater and bullet hole photographed? You can produce one or two grainy, distance pictures that is supposed to disprove the entire attack witnessed by THOUSANDS of people. And how the fuck do you know what Japanese bomb damage is supposed to look like as opposed to American bomb damage would look like? I mean what is the difference, can you explain it?

"Ships floating, even those that are listed as having been "sunk.""

How do you know the ship didn't sink after the picture was taken? How do you know the ship was severally damaged and then merely listed as sunk? How do you know how deep the water was at that very spot and the ship was not rest on a shallow bottom?

" Photographs that show people on the day of the attack relaxed"

The attack was spread out for hours in two waves over a huge area. There were not bombs going off every where every second for the entire two hours straight. You don't know what was happening the exact moment those photos were snapped. You don't know what going on in those people's heads. They could have been in shock for christs sakes.

"You mentioned yourself 30 planes shot down with nothing but a couple of nuts and bolts left of them? Doesn't that seem strange to you?"

No because the planes could been so burned up and damaged that they weren't fit to put into a museum. The salvageable planes were taken by the military for study. After all the Japs built THOUSANDS of planes and how many ended in US museums. Only a handful. Doesn't that mean the US only shot down a handful of Jap planes during the entire war? It nonsense.

Your story is nonsense. Its total FUCKING bullshit and you still can't provide ONE FUCKING WITNESS.