> What is "it"? It being the cause of the collapse. The impact of this aircraft has no bearing. Different aircraft. Different mass. Different structure & distribution. Different metals ("steel" is not "steel"). Different velocities. Different fuel volumes. Different fuels. > The energy "bullet vs explosion" doesn't matter. The Empire State Building and the twin towers all remained standing long after impact. The south tower collapse occurred at least 56 minutes after impact, north tower much longer. You're allowing yourself to fall into a trap. You say "doesn't matter" on a post which literally doesn't matter. THAT'S THE POINT!!! At no point did I claim every other fact in the universe doesn't apply. The purpose of spelling this out is because people like you are mentally trapped. Posts like OP literally have ZERO bearing on the issue; regardless of your take on 9/11. The ONLY possible outcome of such posts is they destroy your credibility. So if you want to push alternative explanations, you can't, because you just kicked your own legs out from under yourself. Anyone claiming stupid shit like, "an airplane once did a thing, therefore all airplanes and things are exactly the same", are, well, idiots. They will be called out as such. The result is you will be attacked and destroyed, even if providing factually accurate information. REGARDLESS OF YOUR POSITION. Period. THIS IS ENTIRELY THE PURPOSE OF THIS TYPE OF PROPAGANDA. IT'S SO YOU DESTROY YOUR OWN CREDIBILITY, THEREFORE NO ONE WILL LISTEN TO YOU. For the purpose of this discussion, it is 100% irrelevant if the collision caused it or a stampede of elephants parachuting in caused it. If you destroy your own credibility, nothing else you wish to contribute matters. This ultimately means you only harm the truth. Period. This entire thread is about the psychology of events and not the event itself. As you continue to focus on the event and not the psychology, you only confirm you are mentally trapped. My purpose in explaining all this is to get you out of this mental trap. Which means you are then empowered to present your case, whatever it may be.