>Child pornography is still unfortunately illegal in most countries...
WTF?
The illegality of child pornography is the lynchpin which has enabled every element of online spying, web control, and censorship by those in power.
I'm not advocating for child porn but the feeling that child porn is the lynchpin is pretty common in the freeware and open source communities and is likely what that guy meant.
If you want to fix the web no content can be illegal, only the sale of certain content can be illegal. One form of censorship gives rise to another.
Every time they want to take freedom from the users or control their data it's always, "OOO childporn!" or "AAHHH Terrorism", and now liberals see antisemitism as worse than child porn so "OOO HATESPEECH"
Morality can be used as a lever of control and subversion when your legal system is based on blind precedent.
If you know the story of how 8chan was attacked by the enemy you know that law can have no place online if ideas are to be free. Google delisted them for childporn, despite them strictly following the letter of the law in their enforcement against it, cloudflare banned them for the actions of a supposed user but still worked with facebook though he used their service to stream his attack.
Scary (((topic))) to talk about but sadly true.
Seems like it would be very easy to plant. I'm surprised they haven't found any on Trump's computer or My Pillow guys phone that they currently have.
Data science is at the point that you could tell when the files were or were not placed on the devices, high profile wealthy people who can afford independent data scientists for their legal defense could expose the tactic. Alternatively the typical person who just happens to be brothers with a supposed mass shooter doesn't really have much room to refute the claims without paying for a million dollar legal defense and thousands of dollars a day for work from a professional forensic data science team. If it's an online device though it's pretty easy to get the files onto the computer so long as you can back door an email or website then hide images so they are loaded but not visible, if you do this you can pretty easily get someone who is practicing a bit of web security yet again though good enough lawyer and they can spot entrapment if they can prove they weren't intentionally viewed, but when it comes to CP most lawyers refuse to risk their reputation or lives to defeat the control tactics of big government, our legal system is based on precedent, if the trick gets caught and shot down in one court it's safe to say it will never work again and the state will lose face. It's a trick they exercise with caution.
Thanks for playing devil's advocate.
How would you recommend solving the issue of pedos needing the woodchipper without "the children" being an excuse for infinite spying and deplatforming on ALL content?
Let's start with clear sides at least.
If you touch a child; woodchipper If you harm a child; woodchipper
So that's a good start I suppose, now let's take one step towards the grey area.
If you hire the hitman, woodchipper If you pay the hitman, woodchipper
Doesn't seem too bad yet, but what about father paying ransom?
If you kidnap a child?
What about father saving his son from the demented mother? Okay so perhaps it should be limited to sexual activities
Nude photos? Hidden cams?
Morally wrong, but what about medical professionals?
Specific licensed professions have highly specific exemptions, with proper data management procedures. Parents can have nanny cams, with age restrictions
As you can see, this quickly becomes a legal mess, and this is the whole purpose of trial by jury, and can easily lead to mob justice as well.
An easy answer would be decriminalizing possession and transfer, but you don't want to encourage the behavior either. I'd say woodchipper for those who actively harm, and data centers have zero liability for encrypted data.
If I had my way there would be holistic and systemic societal and governmental reforms from population exchanges, expulsions, purges and a right to privacy to education reform, judicial reform, and a restructuring of our basis of free speech to regulate constructs such as cognitive hazards like pornography and propaganda.
Ideally solutions and laws are as simple as possible.
Essentially we recognize total freedom of speech online and this means even all porn becomes legal however we can make the production of porn a crime and the profit off of propaganda or pornography illegal. We also need to set ethics laws for moderation of forums and social media which require simply that moderators notify the community of the rules and rule changes clearly and enforce those rules to the letter otherwise they can face an escalating scheme of fines and also that advertisers are legally obligated to disclose their campaigns and that guerilla marketing campaigns are illegal under cognitive hazard laws like porn and propaganda.
Cognitive hazard laws don't make speech illegal they make profiting directly from jewish subversion, propaganda, undeclared advertising, pharmaceutical ads and pornography illegal.
I think this will retard and possibly kill the porn exposure and addiction problems and the small few still getting porn will be the sort of basement dwellers we probably can't fix anyway, the other reforms are about preventing another generation of them. As to wood chipper fodder considering my background in psych, my own research and time on the darkest corners of the web the dynamic will likely shift. After online porn was made available sexually aggressive men of all persuasions had an outlet and rapes declined in every internet connected country gradually, I think if we let them have the porn they have but not make more those who were always predisposed to be sexually aggressive pedophiles or otherwise are inclined to stay online and not touch kids IRL; they will be in a digital rat maze of hunting down CP that is legal but difficult to host, like I said you can't run ads on pages with cognitive hazards so 4chan and others would still moderate it. We would have an agency that flags images of nude children and if they violate DOST the image goes on a list, everytime a new image is added if the user is identifiable without a warrant or hacking he goes down for production, faces of kids in the images will be cross referenced by AI to missing persons and adopted/fostered kids if no hits drop we use any info we do have to cross reference school yearbooks with the AI.
Essentially my strategy is mitigation, most pedophiles according to my own research have never been caught consuming CP or even ever touched a child, they stay home looking at porn because they fear reality typically have elements of psychological regression, fear hurting children, and can't live their sexuality openly(would you prefer I tiptoe and use "sexual interests" euphemistically? Evolutionary biology indicates civilization and language are the product of pubescent or just barely prepubescent bridal capture in our ancient prehistoric ancestors) so they reason it's best to hide from society. The current dynamic has made CP rare and dangerous to look for since the escalating crackdown in obama's second term and Trump's massive sting ops and shut downs of major darkweb sites while conversely the "love is love" hippies have opened the way for social reform that would enable pedophiles to live their sexuality in a somewhat convoluted fashion so instead of being perpetually prowling online for fap fuel they are getting more social with their perversion and going on discord and playing the LGBT game of creating a coalition for normalization and legalization while their increasingly social position enables them to predate on children online but also organize IRL with other pedos. Active pedos once joined the church or married divorcees and widows to gain access to children, now they join "polycules" large multi-partner relationships like swingers cults but they are often high and various members have kids. Pedos will spot each other quickly as they compete for the same prey and organize to swoon the mother privately in turns while going after her child local polycule made the news near me, 7 men, one fat bitch and her 3, soon to be 4 kids, 3 of those kids are fathered by various men in that group, no one knows who the fathers are though. The local news ran this as a positive story. Some polycules have dozens of members. It's likely the sort of place the pelosi attacker was living.
I want the pedos back online in their own dark corners and no longer organizing, that may seem unambitious but I simply don't think we can catch and execute them all, on the basis that it will all start again in a generation, solving the issue is managing the human problem.
We must change their calculous and time investments while also steering away from the left's future.
I could go on but I'll leave it there for now. Sorry for the poorly ordered wall of text but I'm short on time.
I just wait for the day someone will get brave enough to say that in my presence.
What's normality? What's normal? What's the point of reference?
Society hardly can define what's normal anymore, since pretty much anything gets a pass now...
So what's left?
The individual
Everybody thinks they are normal
The person also used "Please, for hell's sake" - Maybe unintentional, but combined with the "unfortunately," it definitely made me wonder some things.
I didn't even realize that at first. A logical explanation though could be combining two similar thoughts into one; aka he was typing 'pornography' in reference to muzzie countries, then decided to add 'child' to increase the country count and failed to properly reorganize the sentence.
Nothing this vile has happened to my sentences, but I have restructured sentences while failing to change other grammatical aspects of it, sometimes resulting in a cobbled mess.
However, I'm guessing it's more likely that OBREZ is correct. It's likely that they are referencing data centers being legally liable for any and all data on their servers, namely child porn; which means they cannot host without some level of moderation or legal protection.
This is the exact type of thing that image recognition AIs should be used for. Granted you'd have to train it on a proper dataset, which means it'd have to be done by glownigger agencies or police, but once it's trained it doesn't "contain" any of the offending material but can easily detect it.
That said even just regular legal porn-trained AI image recognition is probably just fine for detecting CP as well. Obviously an image recognition AI trained on regular porn wouldn't be able to distinguish regular porn from illegal CP, but if I were a data storage provider I'd just ban both and tell my customers "too bad, host your porn elsewhere, I don't have the resources to get an AI to discriminate between legal and illegal porn" and that to me is a perfectly acceptable compromise.
Perhaps there's a bit of middle ground. FBI keeps a database of all cp, but software companies can "train" their AIs with it. Not sure the best way to do this though. Either you'd have to give the FBI your software, to which the FBI can secretly modify it, or the FBI would give access to the cp collection risking leaks.
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