It's not the control over the site/shitpost I would worry about quite honestly
But what they are going to do with the server logs, IP adresses and all that
No idea how voat handed those infos, if they systematically deleted to the max or if they kept pretty much everything like total morons...
Your take?
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Anyway, start with the premise it can happen here too, or anywhere else for that matter, there's no safe
We're potentially talking about a bunch who's used to murder its way to the top, ask palestinians, russians... I would say germans but they would probably tell you it's all their fault for having voted hitler today for like 90% of them even if a rabbi told them straight up that they were right because they indeed were in the crosshair of the wickedest bunch of jews on earth https://files.catbox.moe/s9aubp.mp4 and https://youtu.be/JDeCl3w2wo0?t=49
Needless to say that, with all the holocaust brainwash for the past 30 years... It's safe to assume that a couple of them radicalized, especially those involved in political activism (imagine if roles were inverted how you would hate the guts of white goyz... Especially when it comes to the atheist ziokike bunch, they don't exactly have jesus... Forgiveness, compassion, universal love... That's not exactly their core values, it's basically total commies under a different brand, they are wickedest jews from a theological /religious standpoint)
We know for a fact that Voat keeps logs and that they are retained until the limits of local file storage are reached. This is fact and not debatable.
How do we know this? Remember the first big/long outage when the site went down hard for like a week and Putt was no where to be found? Many of us, myself included, who were technically able to debug and diagnose the problem were able to determine that the exception being thrown was caused by the HD being filled up and running out of space and new logs could not be written to disk.
This is de facto proof that the Voat website logs every page view to disk. Any privacy aware website that cares about your privacy sets up aggressive log purging (or turning off logging all together) as the first and easiest thing to do to protect their users. The fact that the website was able to fill up the disk in a week or two means that not only do they log page views, but that they are aggressively logging and storing a lot of data. This is why I jumped ship then and never went back to the site. They are not trustworthy.
>the exception being thrown was caused by the HD being filled up and running out of space and new logs could not be written to disk.
I member...
I would assume IP are logged until you delete,which is why we have seen people close to putt such as Kevdude delete their accounts, full burn, and gabara deleted/left (not full burn).
At this point I think anyone should delete whatever voat accounts they have if puts buddies are doing so.
Problem with deletion is that if there's no systematic rewrite (like a bunch of zeros/random numbers) over the deleted data on the disk , it can be easily recovered since it's just "a check" over the disk's registry (the "map" telling where is what), a mark telling the OS "you can write over there now" basically. But the data is still there it's just that you don't see it anymore and can write over it
I'm not an expert, maybe things don't work that way anymore or it's not quite that simple given the all cloud shit, but I believe I'm not that far off in terms of technical "no safe"
And again it's not really the legal way I "fear" the most in that context since it's slow, expensive, and rather easily invalidated in case of no legal right to exploit those informations, varrying jurisdiction and all that. It's the grey/dark way, the "buddy system", like when the ADL got caught in 1993 making illegal list of people in their crosshair for instance
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wiki+1993+adl+spy+scandal&atb=v191-3__
https://psmag.com/news/kings-garbage-76228
Fascinating story
>In 1993 it was alleged that the League had been involved in a grotesque rap sheet of covert activities, including espionage, illegal surveillance, theft, and the treasonous sale of classified information to a foreign government. It’s a hell of a tale, and not just for its cartoonish cast of characters: a corrupt police officer, a bungling “fact finder,” and a McCarthyite from Indianapolis. I have no choice but to remember the story. In 1993 I received a letter in the mail. It informed me that I was the victim of an illegal spy ring involving members of the ADL and a San Francisco Police Department intelligence detective called Tom Gerard. The letter came with an index card that included my full name, driver’s license, the license-plate number on my shitty old Subaru hatchback, and the Mission District addresses of my apartment and the leftie bookstore where I worked, near Guerrero and 20th Street. My file had been marked “Pinko,” one of five categories that the ADL spymaster used to flag the group’s targets. At that period I was already at a low point. My stepfather spent most of that year dying of a malignant brain tumor. It was a gruesome, agonizing death, and I put off moving to Moscow to help my mother get through it. That alone was so stressful that we both wound up losing our minds in the process. In the grip of that ordeal, learning that the ADL had spied on me seemed like just one more torment in a personal hell. But I was not alone. Police had seized thousands of index cards like mine in raids on the ADL’s San Francisco office, and in searches of the homes and storage facilities of the organization’s key figures. According to newspaper reports of the time, 12,000 Americans and 950 groups were victims of the now-forgotten scandal. The list of victims reads like a Who’s Who of the Liberal Establishment: NAACP, ACLU, Greenpeace, ACT UP!, National Lawyers Guild, Mother Jones founder Adam Hochschild, reporters from the Los Angeles Times and KQED public television, and scores of local labor unions including the United Auto Works and Cesar Chavez’s United Farm Workers. The ADL operatives even spied on a handful of U.S. Congressmen, all Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi, Senator Alan Cranston, Pete McClosky, Mervyn Dymally, and Ron Dellums of Oakland, head of the House Armed Services Committee. Many prominent Jews were also spied on, including Dr. Yigal Arens, the son of former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Arens.
I'm copy pastaing my last comment to make sure people see this. No one should be fooled into thinking that Voat cares about privacy.
We know for a fact that Voat keeps logs and that they are retained until the limits of local file storage are reached. This is fact and not debatable.
How do we know this? Remember the first big/long outage when the site went down hard for like a week and Putt was no where to be found? Many of us, myself included, who were technically able to debug and diagnose the problem were able to determine that the exception being thrown was caused by the HD being filled up and running out of space and new logs could not be written to disk.
This is de facto proof that the Voat website logs every page view to disk. Any privacy aware website that cares about your privacy sets up aggressive log purging (or turning off logging all together) as the first and easiest thing to do to protect their users. The fact that the website was able to fill up the disk in a week or two means that not only do they log page views, but that they are aggressively logging and storing a lot of data. This is why I jumped ship then and never went back to the site. They are not trustworthy.
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