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6 days ago you made this submission addressing SPECIFICALLY me and srayzie.

In this submission you made at least 27 claims against us, mostly against her, that you did not support in any way.

For anyone wondering, I made it super easy to find his claims, just click here then Ctrl + F "Claim. Evidence?".

Among these, and most importantly, were the claims that she doxxed someone. This fact was supposed to be the "why" of why you doxxed her to the literal violent convict that was fantasizing and posting about raping her boy in front of her for months.

What did you do when I responded here and here, pointing out that you provided support for almost none of your claims?

I'm not going to read any of that because I already agreed not to talk about it with @srayz who I am flagging this post for.

Your title was to ME (archive.fo). Specifically to both srayzie and ME. Did you forget that, or is it just inconvenient for you, now?

But then, after you're not reading my words, you say this:

Additionally, I called you out for making false allegations against @kevdude and this little bitchfest of yours is the result. You have discredited yourselves by making numerous demonstrably false accusations. You will never win back that credibility.

You won't read my words, but you'll make more accusations and claims you probably will not (or more likely, cannot) support?

Then you have the gall to write this:

Maybe you should have just let me post good research in Pizzagate. Ever think about that?

Maybe you shouldn't have doxxed an innocent woman to a violent convict that was threatening to rape her children. Ever think about that?

@pmyb2 you said you wanted an adult conversation on this, yes? Do you consider my responses to him, asking for him to support his 27+ claims, to be adult-like? What, exactly, is this? He addressed me, directly, but won't engage because...?

We both know why he won't engage. He can't support those claims. None of them. He just lied 27 times about a user that he already posted doxx info about here, and now he gets to ignore when someone challenges him on that? His post got 10 upvotes, while srayzie's, where she was only defending herself, got only 7, despite hers providing links to support her claims.

Is that Poal?

Oh, I read your TOS. I'm happy to get banned over the drama, but it would be quite the double-standard to do that and not ban TWOS who specifically, with his title, invited me here. I'm here now. Where he goes, I go. His weighing in on doxxing on the poalcast, was the digital analog of OJ's "If I did it" book. A mockery of his victim, where he gets to talk about his crime on talk shows and other places that really just don't care because the (((legal system))) didn't bury him.

You didn't talk about his absolutely morally bankrupt actions when doxxing users on another site? How lovely! How amazing of you all to just forget about that! Water under the bridge! Let's give this guy a chance!

Already dropped her doxx here, and then makes 27 claims in a submission addressing me and srayzie, attacking me and srayzie, that he has not supported, and as of his comment, refuses to support. All srayzie did was come in and present well-supported claims against TWOS, who gets to play around in his sanctuary city, free from any consequences of his actions, the motivations for which he cannot, or will not, prove.

In his comment, he says this:

So, I have to pose the question, rhetorically, to @srayz as to who is really the problem, here.

I have to pose that question to you, admin. Who is really the problem here?

6 days ago you made [this](https://poal.co/s/MeanwhileOnVoat/85706) submission addressing SPECIFICALLY me and srayzie. In this submission you made *at least* 27 claims against us, mostly against her, that you did not support in any way. For anyone wondering, I made it super easy to find his claims, just [click here](https://poal.co/s/MeanwhileOnVoat/85706) then Ctrl + F "Claim. Evidence?". Among these, and most importantly, were the claims that she doxxed someone. This fact was supposed to be the "why" of why you doxxed her to the *literal violent convict that was fantasizing and posting about raping her boy in front of her for months*. What did you do when I responded [here](https://poal.co/s/MeanwhileOnVoat/85706/4d587b83-0b37-4d61-9c37-05ca5130cf43) and [here](https://poal.co/s/MeanwhileOnVoat/85706/c11eb721-4aed-4804-8490-e1b7b489ecc7), pointing out that you provided support for almost none of your claims? >I'm not going to read any of that because I already agreed not to talk about it with @srayz who I am flagging this post for. Your title was [to ME](http://archive.fo/VbXm4). Specifically to both srayzie and ME. Did you forget that, or is it just inconvenient for you, now? But then, after you're not reading my words, you say this: >Additionally, I called you out for making false allegations against @kevdude and this little bitchfest of yours is the result. You have discredited yourselves by making numerous demonstrably false accusations. You will never win back that credibility. You won't read my words, but you'll make more accusations and claims you probably will not (or more likely, cannot) support? Then you have the gall to write this: >Maybe you should have just let me post good research in Pizzagate. Ever think about that? Maybe you shouldn't have doxxed an innocent woman to a violent convict that was threatening to rape her children. Ever think about that? -- @pmyb2 you said you wanted an adult conversation on this, yes? Do you consider my responses to him, asking for him to support his 27+ claims, to be adult-like? What, exactly, [is this](https://poal.co/s/MeanwhileOnVoat/85665/778e1e65-6a2e-44ec-a2d4-1965a944da53)? He addressed me, *directly*, but won't engage because...? We both know why he won't engage. He can't support those claims. None of them. He just lied 27 times about a user that he already posted doxx info about here, and now he gets to ignore when someone challenges him on that? His post got 10 upvotes, while srayzie's, where she was only defending herself, got only 7, despite hers providing links to support her claims. Is that Poal? Oh, I read your TOS. I'm happy to get banned over the drama, but it would be quite the double-standard to do that and not ban TWOS who specifically, with his title, invited me here. I'm here now. Where he goes, I go. His weighing in on doxxing on the poalcast, was the digital analog of OJ's "If I did it" book. A mockery of his victim, where he gets to talk about his crime on talk shows and other places that really just don't care because the (((legal system))) didn't bury him. You didn't talk about his absolutely morally bankrupt actions when doxxing users on another site? How lovely! How amazing of you all to just forget about that! Water under the bridge! Let's give this guy a chance! Already dropped her doxx here, and then makes 27 claims in a submission addressing me and srayzie, attacking me and srayzie, that he has not supported, and as of his comment, refuses to support. All srayzie did was come in and present well-supported claims against TWOS, who gets to play around in his sanctuary city, free from any consequences of his actions, the motivations for which he cannot, or will not, prove. In his comment, he says this: >So, I have to pose the question, rhetorically, to @srayz as to who is really the problem, here. I have to pose that question to you, admin. Who is really the problem here?

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[–] • 4 pts (edited )

I'm pretty sure I've had to say this before but I'll say it once again, if I had to hold people accountable for what they did other places then many many people would be banned. Yourself included in that I'd measure a guess. That simply is not a realistic standard to try and enforce. This is not an issue I'm going to debate over and over. The standard you are asking for is simply not reasonable. So once again if you have an issue with the user I'd recommend trying to address the issue on voat where it happened. I believe doxing is against the rules there as well. So it would be reasonable for you to seek a ban there.

On the comparison. No this is not like that running to israel to avoid pedophilia charges is not the same because they can get away with it there. Here there are rules against doxing just like on voat the only difference is they are enforced here and not there. Voat and Poal have no extradition treaty and I'd not even begin to know how to form one. However I've gone out of my way to address this and spent far more time on it than the admin on that other site has apparently. Which should tell you I actually give a shit and if there were a problem here it would be dealt with promptly.

I understand you are upset and I understand you want something it is something I can't give you. If you want something done again go tell puttitout about it as it happened on his site. He is the one you need to contact about this. He did nothing about it and so I can only assume he endorsed it.

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[–] • 1 pt

That last part of my previous comment. You can ignore the rest, I don't really care.

That last part. He did, actually, literally, 100%, doxx a user. Dropped info they didn't want here.

Do you still have an account on the other site, or do I have to have TOO send you a PM since TWOS' buddies downvoted me to oblivion over this?

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

I'm pretty sure I've had to say this before but I'll say it once again, if I had to hold people accountable for what they did other places then many many people would be banned. Yourself included in that I'd measure a guess.

Oh? What for? Did I doxx a family to a violent convict?

That simply is not a realistic standard to try and enforce. This is not an issue I'm going to debate over and over. The standard you are asking for is simply not reasonable.

I posit that it is realistic, and quite easy to enforce. Especially when he straight up admits to it.

So once again if you have an issue with the user I'd recommend trying to address the issue on voat where it happened. I believe doxing is against the rules there as well. So it would be reasonable for you to seek a ban there.

Oh, I am. I just find it amazing that a userbase and admin would admonish me as a third party when I was directly addressed by one of your long-time users, and I've taken care of him where Voat is concerned. The two biggest subverses there are places he is banned from, and I have every intention of bringing up his not being banned to admin there any chance I get.

On the comparison. No this is not like that running to israel to avoid pedophilia charges is not the same because they can get away with it there.

No, they can get away with fucking goyim children but they have very specific rules for their own.

Here there are rules against doxing just like on voat the only difference is they are enforced here and not there.

Great! So both cities have laws against murder, but because one city hasn't enforced it, (yet,) he can come live amongst you in the other city freely.

Voat and Poal have no extradition treaty and I'd not even begin to know how to form one.

Treaty? How about just a basic sense of morality? Poal's admin (rightly) will go full-on benevolent dictator if needed, right? That's what I'm doing in GA and PG right now. It works well, doesn't it?

However I've gone out of my way to address this and spent far more time on it than the admin on that other site has apparently. Which should tell you I actually give a shit and if there were a problem here it would be dealt with promptly.

Yep. But here's the problem now. You have a known, willing, seemingly-proud-of-doing-so doxxer that has also admitted to posting links where he tracks people and links them to databases he claims to have. Any of your users could wind up doxxed by him according to his own admissions. So if he does that on another platform intead, you're okay with that because the crime itself wasn't perpetrated here?

I think that might be a really good point to bring up with the users.

Also, I applaud Poal admin for their active engagement with the user base.

I understand you are upset and I understand you want something it is something I can't give you. If you want something done again go tell puttitout about it as it happened on his site. He is the one you need to contact about this. He did nothing about it and so I can only assume he endorsed it.

Hey, glad to know it's out of your hands, and that the dangerous user is... free to do what he likes here. "Hey, I totally murdered people in that other town, but we're cool here, right?" He admitted to doxxing here. But that's not enough because...? reasons.

The Owners and Moderators of individual subs may restrict speech but only at the risk of that individual sub loosing Neutral Public Forum status and the Owners and Moderators of that individual sub loosing Section 230 immunity. Poal.co itself maintains Neutral Public Forum status and maintains Section 230 immunity because anyone can create a new sub and talk about anything they want.

What a threat! You admins are interesting.

Oh, and let's get back to this link webofslime supposedly posted:

https://poal.co/s/Whatever/73925/fac2289c-f946-4948-939d-fe1ddb1b1642

His assertion that it's a "random" mylife profile doesn't hold water, given his propensity for absolutely lying, which I can prove. Want me to prove that he's a liar?

I can. Want to know who that person was? That was not doxxed on voat, but was doxxed here? I know who that was. You have a suspicion of who that was. He literally, unequivocally, undeniably, doxxed someone with information that was not previously posted to either site whatsoever.

You asked him to remove that link. Do you remember now?

So, can we get down to the brass tacks? Let's ban the user for obvious, admitted, constant, continuous, problem-making and literal doxxing. And then we can all be little fonzies and move on with our lives.

[–] • 3 pts

So your goal is what to exasperate me into not responding? Whats your end game here? I can't ban him I have no grounds. He must have broken the doxing rule on poal.

So yeah I'd love for you to prove that was not a link to a random my life page.

[–] PMYB2 4 points (+4|-0) 2 months ago I figured it wasn't but it just adds fuel to the fire atm. Appreciate it.

My exact comment. I looked at the link and it wasn't anyone that was doxed on voat as far as I am aware, and again even if it was it was not doxing on poal as it was not associated with any user as far as I could tell.

Unless he doxes someone on poal there will be no ban. Get the idea out of your head that is not how this is going to end. I've been polite and tried to reason with you so far. I've got limited time and I am quickly running out of time to do this with you. I can end this very quickly but I'd rather not go there.

[–] • 0 pt

So your goal is what to exasperate me into not responding? Whats your end game here? I can't ban him I have no grounds. He must have broken the doxing rule on poal.

He did.

So yeah I'd love for you to prove that was not a link to a random my life page.

I can. How can I contact you directly?

My exact comment. I looked at the link and it wasn't anyone that was doxed on voat as far as I am aware, and again even if it was it was not doxing on poal as it was not associated with any user as far as I could tell.

Except it was, and just because you couldn't tell it doesn't mean it wasn't.

Unless he doxes someone on poal there will be no ban. Get the idea out of your head that is not how this is going to end. I've been polite and tried to reason with you so far. I've got limited time and I am quickly running out of time to do this with you. I can end this very quickly but I'd rather not go there.

You've got options, but you seem to be leaning towards the absurd ones. He literally doxxed someone there. I CAN prove it.