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6 days ago you made this submission addressing SPECIFICALLY me and srayzie.

In this submission you made at least 27 claims against us, mostly against her, that you did not support in any way.

For anyone wondering, I made it super easy to find his claims, just click here then Ctrl + F "Claim. Evidence?".

Among these, and most importantly, were the claims that she doxxed someone. This fact was supposed to be the "why" of why you doxxed her to the literal violent convict that was fantasizing and posting about raping her boy in front of her for months.

What did you do when I responded here and here, pointing out that you provided support for almost none of your claims?

I'm not going to read any of that because I already agreed not to talk about it with @srayz who I am flagging this post for.

Your title was to ME (archive.fo). Specifically to both srayzie and ME. Did you forget that, or is it just inconvenient for you, now?

But then, after you're not reading my words, you say this:

Additionally, I called you out for making false allegations against @kevdude and this little bitchfest of yours is the result. You have discredited yourselves by making numerous demonstrably false accusations. You will never win back that credibility.

You won't read my words, but you'll make more accusations and claims you probably will not (or more likely, cannot) support?

Then you have the gall to write this:

Maybe you should have just let me post good research in Pizzagate. Ever think about that?

Maybe you shouldn't have doxxed an innocent woman to a violent convict that was threatening to rape her children. Ever think about that?

@pmyb2 you said you wanted an adult conversation on this, yes? Do you consider my responses to him, asking for him to support his 27+ claims, to be adult-like? What, exactly, is this? He addressed me, directly, but won't engage because...?

We both know why he won't engage. He can't support those claims. None of them. He just lied 27 times about a user that he already posted doxx info about here, and now he gets to ignore when someone challenges him on that? His post got 10 upvotes, while srayzie's, where she was only defending herself, got only 7, despite hers providing links to support her claims.

Is that Poal?

Oh, I read your TOS. I'm happy to get banned over the drama, but it would be quite the double-standard to do that and not ban TWOS who specifically, with his title, invited me here. I'm here now. Where he goes, I go. His weighing in on doxxing on the poalcast, was the digital analog of OJ's "If I did it" book. A mockery of his victim, where he gets to talk about his crime on talk shows and other places that really just don't care because the (((legal system))) didn't bury him.

You didn't talk about his absolutely morally bankrupt actions when doxxing users on another site? How lovely! How amazing of you all to just forget about that! Water under the bridge! Let's give this guy a chance!

Already dropped her doxx here, and then makes 27 claims in a submission addressing me and srayzie, attacking me and srayzie, that he has not supported, and as of his comment, refuses to support. All srayzie did was come in and present well-supported claims against TWOS, who gets to play around in his sanctuary city, free from any consequences of his actions, the motivations for which he cannot, or will not, prove.

In his comment, he says this:

So, I have to pose the question, rhetorically, to @srayz as to who is really the problem, here.

I have to pose that question to you, admin. Who is really the problem here?

6 days ago you made [this](https://poal.co/s/MeanwhileOnVoat/85706) submission addressing SPECIFICALLY me and srayzie. In this submission you made *at least* 27 claims against us, mostly against her, that you did not support in any way. For anyone wondering, I made it super easy to find his claims, just [click here](https://poal.co/s/MeanwhileOnVoat/85706) then Ctrl + F "Claim. Evidence?". Among these, and most importantly, were the claims that she doxxed someone. This fact was supposed to be the "why" of why you doxxed her to the *literal violent convict that was fantasizing and posting about raping her boy in front of her for months*. What did you do when I responded [here](https://poal.co/s/MeanwhileOnVoat/85706/4d587b83-0b37-4d61-9c37-05ca5130cf43) and [here](https://poal.co/s/MeanwhileOnVoat/85706/c11eb721-4aed-4804-8490-e1b7b489ecc7), pointing out that you provided support for almost none of your claims? >I'm not going to read any of that because I already agreed not to talk about it with @srayz who I am flagging this post for. Your title was [to ME](http://archive.fo/VbXm4). Specifically to both srayzie and ME. Did you forget that, or is it just inconvenient for you, now? But then, after you're not reading my words, you say this: >Additionally, I called you out for making false allegations against @kevdude and this little bitchfest of yours is the result. You have discredited yourselves by making numerous demonstrably false accusations. You will never win back that credibility. You won't read my words, but you'll make more accusations and claims you probably will not (or more likely, cannot) support? Then you have the gall to write this: >Maybe you should have just let me post good research in Pizzagate. Ever think about that? Maybe you shouldn't have doxxed an innocent woman to a violent convict that was threatening to rape her children. Ever think about that? -- @pmyb2 you said you wanted an adult conversation on this, yes? Do you consider my responses to him, asking for him to support his 27+ claims, to be adult-like? What, exactly, [is this](https://poal.co/s/MeanwhileOnVoat/85665/778e1e65-6a2e-44ec-a2d4-1965a944da53)? He addressed me, *directly*, but won't engage because...? We both know why he won't engage. He can't support those claims. None of them. He just lied 27 times about a user that he already posted doxx info about here, and now he gets to ignore when someone challenges him on that? His post got 10 upvotes, while srayzie's, where she was only defending herself, got only 7, despite hers providing links to support her claims. Is that Poal? Oh, I read your TOS. I'm happy to get banned over the drama, but it would be quite the double-standard to do that and not ban TWOS who specifically, with his title, invited me here. I'm here now. Where he goes, I go. His weighing in on doxxing on the poalcast, was the digital analog of OJ's "If I did it" book. A mockery of his victim, where he gets to talk about his crime on talk shows and other places that really just don't care because the (((legal system))) didn't bury him. You didn't talk about his absolutely morally bankrupt actions when doxxing users on another site? How lovely! How amazing of you all to just forget about that! Water under the bridge! Let's give this guy a chance! Already dropped her doxx here, and then makes 27 claims in a submission addressing me and srayzie, attacking me and srayzie, that he has not supported, and as of his comment, refuses to support. All srayzie did was come in and present well-supported claims against TWOS, who gets to play around in his sanctuary city, free from any consequences of his actions, the motivations for which he cannot, or will not, prove. In his comment, he says this: >So, I have to pose the question, rhetorically, to @srayz as to who is really the problem, here. I have to pose that question to you, admin. Who is really the problem here?

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Either way works just fine for me

No email address allowed when registering on chat.

The options you are leaving with are not ones I like.

I'd much prefer to see a peaceful resolution. Do not do what you are threatening. Trust me lets not take it there.

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I'd much prefer to see a peaceful resolution. Do not do what you are threatening. Trust me lets not take it there.

Wait, you do or do not want me to prove this? I'd think for a site owner this is pretty important.

Threatening? What am I threatening? What am I taking where? I was ready to have an adult conversation. Did ANYTHING I said suggest otherwise, before his dismissive response, showing he never had any intention of having an adult conversation about it?

I offered a peaceful resolution. I will continue to offer it as I hand you evidence that he did, in fact, dox someone right here on your own website. Are you prepared to ban him when I prove this? That's the peaceful resolution. He goes, I immediately drop the issue and move on.

The options you are leaving with are not ones I like.

Nobody likes any of this. I'm not enjoying myself at this level. I was fully willing to have an adult conversation about this, given that I was specifically pinged here by him. He brought me here, made accusations, and when pressed to support them, dismissed everything. Now everyone gets to have a bad time, because what he claimed he wanted, what you both claimed you wanted, was rejected by him.

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If you know that the link in question is a user on poal or voat I'd much prefer you not reveal that as it would be doxing.

Threatening to do so is not having an adult conversation. I'm not him. I have not dismissed you or your concerns I've addressed them. So I'm not sure where the hostility is coming from.

How about this you and I sit down and talk and we work it out. I gave you two ways you can contact me directly and I'd be more than happy to discuss it there.

This does not need to escalate farther, it needs to deescalate.

You give me a chance and I'd be willing to bet you might find I'm a decent guy that just wants to help.

Or you can ignore everything I just said and create another reply that keeps all this nonsense going and we can keep doing this and force me into something I really would rather not do. Entirely your call.

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If you know that the link in question is a user on poal or voat I'd much prefer you not reveal that as it would be doxing.

Oh, we really should talk, you and me.

Threatening to do so is not having an adult conversation.

If the info needs to be in your hands in order to make a determination, then it's on you to accept that info.

I'm not him.

I never said you were.

I have not dismissed you or your concerns I've addressed them.

Yes. You've stated that as long as he didn't dox anyone on THIS site, you wouldn't do anything. That's what I wanted to be 100% sure of before I brought up what we both know was doxxing.

So I'm not sure where the hostility is coming from.

I'm not sure where you're seeing hostility. I'm pretty intense when I write, regardless, but if there is any, it's suggesting that somehow I should be banned just like him if you counted things done off-site, then not explaining why that is.

How about this you and I sit down and talk and we work it out.

Absolutely.

I gave you two ways you can contact me directly and I'd be more than happy to discuss it there.

Yeah, having trouble with that.

This does not need to escalate farther, it needs to deescalate.

I never intended this in the first place. Why go through all that responding to him if I was just going to get him banned using this info at the beginning? Wasteful.

You give me a chance and I'd be willing to bet you might find I'm a decent guy that just wants to help.

I believe it.

Or you can ignore everything I just said and create another reply that keeps all this nonsense going and we can keep doing this and force me into something I really would rather not do. Entirely your call.

I haven't ignored anything you've said. Not an ounce. That thing you'd really rather not do sounds ominous to me. I don't think I like it. Are we going to talk this out (when I get the chat fixed) or are we going to keep escalating?

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First link is to a riot that appears to have me all alone with "empty room" being the only thing there.

The next one is asking me for an address username and pw.

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First link is riot, DM me at pmyb2 second is the mumble server /s/poalcast has instructions to join the voice chat server.

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Pretty sure I added you on riot. Was on mumble but not going to stay there with people coming and going.