Aliens is one of the few films from that general era where the villains' motivation is understandable (in Aliens, sheer greed, hubris, and ambition), but they are objectively morally bad. And the heroine defies him, establishing her character and as a moral person.
Burke: "It was a bad call...." Ripley: "Bad call?! These people are DEAD, Burke!!" as she slams his sleazy jew ass into the wall. She then tells him how she won't let him get away with this, and that she's glad to disappoint him on this matter. Absolutely brilliant writing, excellent acting and directing.
Slight tangent... this was around the time where villains in films began to become more sensible and often right in what they're trying to do. Re-watching these films as an adult, I often feel myself rooting for the villain or finding the heroes' actions to be retarded. For example: The original Day of the Dead. The one where it's a small team of soldiers and scientists, living in an abandoned nuke silo. The villain is supposed to be Captain Rhodes. But watching the movie again... every decision he made was logical, rational, and necessary. So how do they make him seem villainous? Music, and make him act like an asshole. Yes, Captain Rhodes was an asshole- but he was absolutely fucking right in being suspicious of the scientists, because it turns out the scientists were full of shit and the soldiers were dying for nothing.
Or how about The Abyss? The antagonist of that film is not the alien race which destroyed one of our nuclear submarines that was just driving around, killing over a hundred sailors and leaving several armed warheads at the edge of a massive trench. No, see, the aliens are the good guys because they don't like nukes. The antagonist of The Abyss is the Navy SEAL team leader, Lt. Coffey. After recovering the warheads and stashing them on the underwater oil rig, the aliens manifest some kind of water-tentacle which snakes up into the rig, through the hallways, and directly into the room with the warheads. The civilian oil rig crew, bunch of fucking rubes, run in and see this, and our female lead begins making funny faces at the water tentacle, which mimics her face.
Lt. Coffey sees this water tentacle, and slams a fucking hatch onto it, causing it to collapse and disperse. He is chastised by the dumbass civilians, and then he privately speaks to the only other surviving SEAL. He says: "That thing went straight for the warheads, and they think it's fucking cute!?" What Coffey and everyone in the movie (and viewers) know at this point: there are some kind of beings in this really deep trench. They attacked and sunk one of our nuclear submarines, which was out on a drill or something, killing hundreds of men. The SEAL team is deployed to recover the warheads and look for signs of possible Russian activity. By the time of the water tentacle, everyone seems to be on the same page that this is not the Russians, but some kind of alien. They have shown nothing but initial violent hostility, and then what appears to be morbid curiosity or mocking behavior.
With all of this information, and cut off from the surface, with no communications, Lt. Coffey has to make a decision. He has to decide whether to detonate the warheads, or risk letting them fall into Russian/alien hands. And he decides he's going to set that warhead up to blow and drop it in the trench onto the gigantic alien vessel. He is the ranking officer, and this is a military operation. But the civilian crew mutinies, and attacks Lt. Coffey. Coffey is unable to properly defend himself because the only other surviving SEAL took the clip out of his pistol without him knowing. What a great teammate. Our other two SEAL bros were already killed by this alien shit, and hundreds more sailors- but yeah I'm with these civilians because war is bad. Fucking blue falcon, that guy.
lol...you need to copy paste this thread as a new post.
Hah, you a Captain Rhodes fan, too?
Another great example from a more recent movie, the propaganda film starring Sandra Bullock and some nigger, Bird Box.
In that film, there is some kind of evil spirit virus that enters people when they look upon them. If you are a good person, you will go into this fugue state and immediately find a way to off yourself, like in The Happening. But if you are a bad person (in the propaganda film, a White person), you will become an insane murderer who groups up with other baddies to hunt down good people.
Early in the film, as hell is breaking loose, the protagonist and the main cast are let into the home of an old White man, who is a stand-in for a Trump supporter. The group of characters is diverse- a gay Asian, a nigger, a spic, etc.. The old White Trump Supporter (OWTS from here on) has a rifle, and his wife just died outside. He is allowing these people to stay inside of his home out of kindness- he doesn't need them. They are more mouths to feed, more liabilities; Sandra Bullock's character is pregnant. Everything OWTS does, says, or suggests is met with disgusted looks by our team of diverse superheroes.
At one point, the group leaves his home to raid a grocery store. While doing this, they have OWTS shout "We're making the apocalypse great again, yeehaw!" No shit, not exaggerating- they're this blatant.
And here's the best part: After the group returns to the OWTS's secure home, suddenly there's a pounding on the door. It's a fat pregnant (White) woman, desperately begging to be allowed in. The OWTS, the man who owns the home and is the only one carrying a firearm, says "No, we can't let her in, we don't know if she is infected or possessed or whatever the hell is going on, there are too many of us in here already!" This leads to an argument, where OWTS is portrayed as a vicious monster for not allowing this woman in. So the gay Asian sneaks up behind the OWTS man and knocks him out with a brick or something. They then allow the new pregnant woman in.
OWTS awakens and is tied up, as the group of faggot liberals he is hosting believe they can handle this better than he can. And a few minutes later.... what do you know? The pregnant woman who they just allowed in was fucking possessed, and she proceeds to covertly kill the gay Asian. This leads to a chain of events which leads to the deaths of everyone in the house, including OWTS. The only survivors are Sandra Bullock and the nigger that has been screwing her for the entire movie (because we can't have a movie without race mixing anymore).
I have to wonder if the people who wrote and directed this shit actually saw the irony in this. They portray OWTS as an evil, bitter man who is bigoted and cruel for no reason. The reality they are showing on screen: OWTS IS A FUCKING SAINT WHO RISKED HIS LIFE, EVENTUALLY GIVING IT, TO TRY AND SHELTER LIKE 8 UNGRATEFUL LIBSHIT FAGGOTS WHO MAKE TERRIBLE DECISIONS THAT LEAD TO THEM ALL BEING KILLED. If they had listened to the "villain", they would not have been infiltrated by the possessed pregnant woman.
Common sense is evil now.
Yes..one of the few movies I have managed to watch lately.
I love the line "What are you, some kind of simpleton?"
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