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[–] • 6 pts

reporting from OAN on the subject. It includes a for your own review.

[–] • 2 pts

Excellent source quoting. We need so much more of this thank you.

[–] • 4 pts

This is a tough one to call. Say you have a head cold, and it goes into your chest, giving you pneumonia, and you have asthma and the congestion in your lungs kills you ... did you die of a head cold, or not? Maybe you died of asthma. Or maybe you died of pneumonia. There's no question that the cold triggered the pneumonia, or that the pneumonia made the asthma fatal. But what was the actual cause of death?

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Late reply but....

I can't find the link, but there was a county that was complaining about their high Covid death numbers. 5 people died in a car crash, but they had tested positive for Covid in the last 30 days. So their deaths were called "Covid related", and marked as Covid deaths.

The county was pissed off saying that no one would now visit their county, or go shopping there because they're being told that the county has high Covid death numbers. That people are dying of Covid in their county.

So, if you test positive for Covid, and in the next 30 days you die in a car crash, you get shot, or mauled by a bear, it'll be called a Covid related death. And count towards the Covid death numbers you see.

Meanwhile, consider this - Some people who get Covid are asymptomatic. Some develop a fever and have that fever get out of control, their organs shut down, their brains get messed up, and they die.

Other people get Covid and they get a runny nose, mucus in their throat. If that mucus gets into their lungs, they then have fluid in their lungs. Bacteria grows and they have pneumonia or other respiratory problems, and then they die.

But think about it. - A fever is the immune system upping the body's temperature in order to kill the virus. The virus doesn't want you to have a fever. The fever is created by the immune system to kill the virus. The Covid virus replicates in the throat cells. The immune system produces mucus to coat the throat in a layer of mucus. The virus doesn't want you to produce mucus. Fever and mucus - The virus doesn't give you those. Your immune system does.

It is impossible to die from Covid. Covid wants a healthy host at a healthy temperature. The only way to die after getting Covid is if your faulty immune system kills you. The virus itself isn't capable of killing anyone.

Also, viruses like Covid don't make you "sick". The reason you feel "sick", the symptoms you have, are all caused by your immune system as it tries to kill the virus. They aren't caused by the virus. The virus itself... THE VIRUS ITSELF is completely harmless to humans.

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At that point you died of pneumonia with complications from asthma. Usually something like that is reported "after a long battle with," which you can infer means they probably had a lot of other problems.

COVID is simply being reported as COVID. Remember the little boy that was born with his intestines outside his body and they tried to call it COVID? Then they tried to pass it off as "Well, COVID and complications..." It's like Annie Glenn dying of COVID. She was 100 years old, she died because she was on Death's Dance Card for that night.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/health/2020/09/18/michigan-baby-covid-19-death-coronavirus/5825417002/

https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200519/annie-glenn-john-glennrsquos-widow-dies-from-covid-19-at-100

Let's not forget the man who died of blunt force trauma in a motorcycle accident was actually reported as dying of COVID.

https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report-07-18-2020

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They put multiple causes on the death cert.

Im tired of pointing out the obvious problem with these sort of news stories.

Covid attacks multiple organs in the severe cases. Kidney, heart , liver , lungs. Clots cause embolisms and strokes.

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Covid alone has not been known in any even slightly significant amount to cause a proven healthy person under 80 to catch it and then have clots, embolisms and strokes. You're in political medicine lala land. Life is a risk. The risk is low for healthy people. People who are around unhealthy people should be wearing a proper respirator and follow protocols. If you allow governments to take away your freedoms and rights in an emergency the government will make an emergency to take away your freedoms and rights. If this was a serious airborne virus there would be no need to mandate anything, people would do it on their own. We pay enough jew taxes there should be enough money to have hospitals ready for an influx of sick people. The hospitals are all empty and that's direct info from family that works at multiple hospitals in my area. More people are dying and having "long term" effects from being forced to close down. By your way of thinking people who lose their jobs, start drinking and then kill themselves because of Corona lockdowns should be labeled as Covid deaths too I guess.

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How does “covid alone” kill anyone without a stroke or a heart attack or kidney failure or ARDS or some kind of organ failure? You don’t just drop dead of “virus”. It attacks specific systems. So there is basically always a second cause listed. Covid kills in different ways.

>healthy person under 80.

Nobody over 55 is very healthy. Almost everyone has a chronic condition at that point. But most of them live another 30 years. So that argument is utterly stupid.

Life is risk but stupid totally unnecessary risk that is likely to shave 30 years off your life is to be avoided. Everyone over 25 should understand this.

>If you allow governments to take away your freedoms and rights.....blah blah.

Who said I agreed with any of that shit?

You think the only options are

1) submit to communist crackdown

2) deny that covid is really killing people but if it did, they were old and had it coming?

There is a fucking cure. You can cure 99% of these old farts.

[–] • 2 pts

Someone posted this the other day. I updated it to reflect current per site.

In 2015, a total of 2,712,630 resident deaths were registered in the United States:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db267.pdf

In 2016, a total of 2,744,248 resident deaths were registered in the United States:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db293.pdf

In 2017, a total of 2,813,503 resident deaths were registered in the United States:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db328-h.pdf

In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 resident deaths were registered in the United States:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db355-h.pdf

2019, January - December month ending number of deaths, 2,855,000:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm

2020 number of deaths (all causes) through 12/23/2020, 2,851,438:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/

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That last table does not include January 2020 deaths which are 264,000. Add that to 2,851438 and you have 3,115,438, well over the previous year (9%) but wait there’s more.

The CDC data is > 25% incomplete for the most recent 8 weeks. Even October and September totals are not complete. So you can expect that number to go up by another 5% or more. Deaths will be up 15 to 20 % from 2019 when all the data trickles in around February.

And when we get to May or June we will have complete data from March 2020 to March 2021 and we will have a real idea of what Covid has done over 12 months. Hundreds of thousands of old people are dying for no reason whatsoever.

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I did see someone point this out with the data...but didn't capture their analysis. Thanks.

It will be interesting to see the total when we hit the 1 year mark.

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Ive had about a hundred arguments with people on voat over CDC data. Im beginning to become a bit terse on the subject. But my opinion is that there is a significant increase in total deaths since 2019 on the CDC reporting system that is consistent with the Covid numbers. If they are really just heart attack fatalities then something has caused heart attacks to increase massively from last year. Maybe they are just making up new dead people but I dont think so. They are too incompetent to do that with out fucking up.

[–] • 2 pts

This should be stickied.

[–] • 5 pts

It’s Christmas.

Let’s sticky it tomorrow 😉🍷🎄

[–] • 1 pt

where are you on this earth? it's still christmas eve. noon.

[–] • 1 pt

a few days i compared the total mortality rate listed by the CDC from this year, and the previous two years. This year has far fewer total deaths compared to the last two years.
I also checked the numbers on stats canada. that site was not as easy to read, but the numbers seem to suggest the same thing, less total deaths this year compared to the last two.

[–] • 1 pt

No isolate.

No virus.

[–] • 1 pt

I TOLD EVERYBODY IT WAS A FRAUD. NOBODY BELIEVED ME. FAKE NEWS IS MORE BELIEVABLE.

[–] • 0 pt

And the fraud is beginning to unwind...

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What evidence did you bring on the table that covid19 is a fraud, to convince everybody?

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This is stupid. Late stage covid causes heart attacks, strokes and acute respiratory disease. That’s how you die of it. Death certificates often have multiple causes of death on them. You can have stroke and covid both listed as cause of death if you had a stroke brought on by covid. Also many doctors were listing covid deaths as pneumonia and influenza before they created a separate code for the disease. Most people who died with covid also had co-morbidities. Because practically everyone over 55 has one. We don’t kill people when they turn 55 though. This isn’t Logan’s Run. Yet.

> duh I only have 2 choices, submit to communism or deny that coronavirus exists.

No. There’s a cure. You can demand the cure. We dont have to hide behind face doilies. There are drugs that will prevent and cure covid if used correctly. You don’t have to choose between surrender and denial of reality.

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The problem as I see it, these deaths are being used to say "See? Do you see? This is soooo dangerous! Do you see????" when in reality influenza, a bad fall, or simply age could have also killed that person. It's being used as a vehicle to control people when in reality it should just be a "Hey dumbass, make sure the vulnerable are protected and watch yourself."

Instead, we have hysteria on a level I've never seen in my lifetime, where people are buying this hook line and sinker when they probably can't name more than one person (not of advanced age) that died of this disease. I know many that have had it, but only 1 FOAF that died of it. He was almost 70.

[–] • 2 pts

My response to the “See, this is soo dangerous” is that the CCP engineered this virus, their viral engineering program was public record and the CDC funded it. The CDC helped cause this disaster.

The WHO has done nothing to ameliorate the situation either and neither have any credibility. There is a cure. There are multiple drugs that will cure and prevent the spread of this virus and the government is doing nothing to utilize them.

I rain a torrent of facts at any quarantine karen that gets in my face, demonstrating that my knowlege is superior to their worthless virtue signalling and superstitious retardation in the face of this disease, and that their ignorance and politics are making the epidemic worse.

I feel like conservatives don’t have good arguments for the liberals because many don’t understand the situation well, they just know they are being taken for a ride.

But the response is, there is a cure. People can stop dying anytime we want, if we demand it. The key is prophylaxis and early treatment. If Brazil and India can do it, we can do it. We’ve done similar population mass dosing programs for Africa. Often with the same drugs in question. There is no reason for the deaths to continue. Oh yeah and its cheap as shit.

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That's because there's no money in curing the disease, but control of the population is priceless.

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I have been screaming this for months on VOAT and YAHOO. This is the biggest Criminal act in American history and has destroyed millions of lives. Fauci and the heads of the CDC, The WHO and the AMA should all be in prison.

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get ready. the pope is being rplaced; with the androgyne. the virus thing was about installing apparatus and implementing hardware and software to add too smart meters and AI contols [lights. etc. in your house with wi-fi]. you should already have a good idea of who will support the androgyne; they are called bolsheviks. IT IS FOR THIS: geordie rose from Kindred AI on summoning old ones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD8zGnT2n_A&t=488s YouTube FERMI lab art https://duckduckgo.com/?q=FERMI+lab+art&t=newext&atb=v239-7__&iax=images&ia=images and this:

https://channelingerik.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/antichrist_nostradamus_lost_book-4-639x604.jpgJPG

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/33/b2/3933b2db9d7ed90bf60b73e729717885.jpg

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