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Exactly as I said it would be.

And to all the numerous idiots that didn't have any fucking first hand knowledge of these fuckers, that kept insisting that "The taliban will outlaw opium production!" and "Opium production will go down under the taliban after the US leaves!"?

I know those fuckers and I fucking told you so. Suck it.

For the idiots that see everything as a jewish plot, opium was being grown in those same fields 2,200 years ago when Cyrus blew through there from Persia, and were still in operation when Alexander came through on his way to India 200 years later.

I spent 17 years in Afghanistan. I know those people. The taliban are not some monolithic block. They are a loose confederation of competing tribal interests. Think "The Sopranos" but in pakols. They are like any other human being. They want things. Things that can be only be bought for money. Opium is the only product they have that is highly marketable. I have seen them kill each other over market share just like any other tribal gangs over who gets what cut of the drug profits. I've seen taliban commanders begging their men not to walk away during the opium harvest season, because they could make 2-3 times per day harvesting opium as they can toting an AK as a taliban foot soldier (Yes. They get paid to fight. What? You thought they were doing it for free? Because "Muh Izlam!"? snerk).

An Afghan border guard captain, working on the Iranian border, makes about $4,000 USD per day just on the "excise taxes" he makes per kilo going out. That's more than the POTUS. Nobody just walks away from that kind of money.

Now consider their costs. They are landlocked. No ports. Everything comes in from surrounding countries who are all in competition with each other to see how much they milk they can get out of the cow. Every consumer good gets "taxed" multiple times on it's way to Kabul. So they are being constantly fucked by everybody. So that, to give an example, by the time a diesel Toyota Hilux truck gets to Kabul, it will cost about $80,000 USD.

Anyone who thought that the taliban were going to just stop producing the one thing that they can trade for cash because "Muh, izlam." is guilty of wishful thinking of the worst sort. And anyone who thought that the opium trade in Afghanistan was a jewish/Mossad/CIA/us.gov plot that suddenly sprang into existence in 1980 is a baby duck who thinks history just started today.

And guess what? 2,000 years from now the descendants of those same people will still be growing opium in the same fields. Who are you going to blame it on then? And if your opinion on the matter has been formed by what you read on the internet, not from first-hand experience, do yourself a favor and keep it to yourself. "It is far better to remain silent and be suspected of being a fool..."

*Exactly* as I said it would be. And to all the numerous idiots that didn't have any fucking first hand knowledge of these fuckers, that kept insisting that "The taliban will outlaw opium production!" and "Opium production will go down under the taliban after the US leaves!"? I know those fuckers and I fucking told you so. Suck it. For the idiots that see everything as a jewish plot, opium was being grown in those same fields 2,200 years ago when Cyrus blew through there from Persia, and were still in operation when Alexander came through on his way to India 200 years later. I spent 17 years in Afghanistan. I know those people. The taliban are not some monolithic block. They are a loose confederation of competing tribal interests. Think "The Sopranos" but in pakols. They are like any other human being. They want things. Things that can be only be bought for money. Opium is the only product they have that is highly marketable. I have seen them kill each other over market share just like any other tribal gangs over who gets what cut of the drug profits. I've seen taliban commanders begging their men not to walk away during the opium harvest season, because they could make 2-3 times per day harvesting opium as they can toting an AK as a taliban foot soldier (Yes. They get paid to fight. What? You thought they were doing it for free? Because "Muh Izlam!"? snerk). An Afghan border guard captain, working on the Iranian border, makes about $4,000 USD *per day* just on the "excise taxes" he makes per kilo going out. That's more than the POTUS. Nobody just walks away from that kind of money. Now consider their costs. They are landlocked. No ports. Everything comes in from surrounding countries who are all in competition with each other to see how much they milk they can get out of the cow. Every consumer good gets "taxed" multiple times on it's way to Kabul. So they are being constantly fucked by everybody. So that, to give an example, by the time a diesel Toyota Hilux truck gets to Kabul, it will cost about $80,000 USD. Anyone who thought that the taliban were going to just stop producing the one thing that they can trade for cash because "Muh, izlam." is guilty of wishful thinking of the worst sort. And anyone who thought that the opium trade in Afghanistan was a jewish/Mossad/CIA/us.gov plot that suddenly sprang into existence in 1980 is a baby duck who thinks history just started today. And guess what? 2,000 years from now the descendants of those same people will *still* be growing opium in the same fields. Who are you going to blame it on then? And if your opinion on the matter has been formed by what you read on the internet, not from first-hand experience, do yourself a favor and keep it to yourself. "It is far better to remain silent and be suspected of being a fool..."

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So let me get this straight: the Taliban outlaws opium production in 2000. The U.S. invades in 2001, and opium production increases to record levels for the next 20 years under U.S. control. Meanwhile opiates are prescribed like candy (holy shit boys we got a lot of product, time to create some demand) and millions of Americans become addicts and junkies. But now that the U.S. has been kicked out of Afghanistan and they have lost control of the opium production, the MSM is running a piece blaming the Taliban…

And OP believes it.

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there are three kinds of people, NPCs, conspiracy schizos, and free thinkers (for bonus irony all of the groups think they are the real free thinkers).

NPCs will just repeat anything told to them by the authority (in this case jewish media)

Conspiracy schizos are just as easily controlled as NPCS, they just need to be fed a narrative and convinced they've discovered some "secret" even if it's an obvious gayop they'll shill it. Example: "everyone who disagrees with the mainstream media is a secret fbi agent" people.

Free thinkers collect all available information, judge it for it's trustworthiness and come to a conclusion that may change when faced with new information. Even the best free thinkers however will still have blind spots where they behave like one of the prior groups.

OP was fed a narrative by the jewish media, and because it confirms his bias (muslims = bad) he ignores all the problems with the narrative, nor does he consider why the jewish media could be feeding him this narrative (they want American public in favor of invasion of the enemies of the jews).

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Conspiracy schizos

SPACE ISN'T REAL, THE FIRMAMENT IS!!! PROJECT BLUE BEAM!! PROJECT BLUE BEEEEEEAAAAAMMMMMM!!

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So then, what are the actual undeniable facts? Has the Taliwhackers banned opium? If not, has opium production at least been significantly decreased? These are yes or no questions by the way. If you want to challenge his " narrative", some facts disproving his conclusion, and proving yours would be in order. I have not looked into it much, because I simply don't care, but a cursory Google search suggests the answers to the above two questions are 'no' & 'no'. Now since the three Abrahamic-based 'religions' are well known for their love of hypocrisy, I have little reason to doubt the Taliban would say one thing and do another....sorta like soooo many xtian preachers will rage against prostitutes from the pulpit, only to be later caught with their pants down.

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I would say they need the money but Biden left them plenty of that.

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Not my problem. Don’t fucking care. When we deal with the jews destroying White middle America with opioids I may start giving a shit about the other thing

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Biden raised the price of food, fuel and cars but you will make it up on cheaper heroin. Let's go Brandon!

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Over 80% of the Afghan production goes to the European market, by way of Iran, through our good NATO ally and partner, Turkey. The rest sticks to various fingers on the way by. One of the biggest unspoken not-secrets in the area is the rate of heroin and opium addiction in the Iran/Afghanistan border region.

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US heroin comes from South America, and many opioid pills are synthetic. Afghan heroin goes to Europe and Russia.

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The "northern alliance" are nothing more than opium warlords. The Taliban came after them because they believe drugs are unislamic. After 9/11 the CIA played the American people to side with the Drug lords to attack the Taliban and restore Heroin production. Now that we are gone, the Taliban are consolidating power but the drug lords are still armed and supplied. They will go back to fighting each other as soon as the Taliban have control of what they did before. The CIA pulled us out of Afghanistan only because Fentanyl is cheaper to produce and the Chinese distribution channels are more stable. They left the weapons behind so they could continue to foster conflict for profit in the region. The only reason the US was there was for the heroin. How we left proves the point.

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The Northern Alliance doesn't control the opium fields or production. Never did. They're in the North. Dari territory. Three reasons:

1) They don't have the soil for it. 2) They don't have the climate for it. 3) And since opium poppies require irrigation, they sure as shit don't have the water for it.

That's why the majority of the opium is grown along the Helmand river. In Helmand Province. In the South. Pashto territory.

But thanks for participating anyway.

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Here is a simple to find . You are either uninformed or intentionally lying about US involvement in the heroin production in Afghanistan.

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Opium is a relatively water intensive crop. That's why the fields are always nears a reliable water source, like a river. One of the reasons that they are reporting an "increase" in harvests is because for the last several years the whole region has been in a drought. Opium production dropped to less than half. Which also generated friction between the taliban and the farmers because the taliban insisted upon taxing them according to their square acreage under cultivation, not by the amount of opium actually being produced.

But that's not on the internet, so you wouldn't know that would you?

The drought was so bad that the Iranian Quds Force was offering the taliban advanced weapons and support in exchange for them blowing up the dam on the Helmand river to increase the rate of flow of water into Iran, and the taliban said no.

But they never posted that on the internet either, so how could you know?

Stop trying to argue your, no doubt, vast sum of stored "internet knowledge" with someone who was there and watched all of this happen right outside his door for years. There are vast amounts of pertinent data that you can only learn by being there, talking to people and seeing it happen with your own eyes. Which, of course, you never will.

"When experience gainsays, theory should remain silent ."

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The US military was protecting opium fields out there. I mean, you can say whatever you want but the US was aiding and abetting the manufacture and production of poppy in Afghanistan. For what reason, I don't know. I suspect it had to do with the pharmaceutical industry. Now that Afghanistan controls its own distribution again, of course there will be a rise in production as they explore revitalizing Chinese markets.

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For what reason, I don't know.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio/B#Funding

Funding appears to be via the normal deep state methods; Edmonds points to the international drugs trade as a key role in funding black ops such as Operation Gladio/B. She notes that in 2001, without providing any evidence that the country was in any way involved, the US invaded the world's largest producer of opium, Afghanistan. She claims that the main areas of Gladio B money laundering are Cyprus, Malta and Dubai.[20]

A huge upswing in opium production after the unprovoked US invasion of the country following 9/11. Opium production has greatly increased since the US lead invasion. As with Gary Webb's well documented case that the CIA was heavily involved in cocaine trafficking, the commercially-controlled media has refused to show much interest in the evidence.[21][22]

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I keep wondering about the sanity of people who will claim that the us.gov needs the opium trade to fund fill in the blank but then will turn right around and in the very next breath decry the same government for running it's money printing presses wide open 24/7 in order to fund fill in the blank.

Which is it? Why would anyone with a money printing press in the basement need to have anything else?

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Which is it? Why would anyone with a money printing press in the basement need to have anything else?

Accountability.

You see, there are much more hassles and risks involved, political or otherwise, when the money comes one way or the other from the .gov budget; it comes with rules and laws attached to it, it leaves a paper trail, somewhere

With so called "black budgets", ie money that doesn't come from .gov budget, there are no strings attached, you can hire terrorists to do terrorist stuffs, give into all sorts of not only illegal but outright criminal activities, without political liabilities. It's just baddies doing bad things and no one is officially involved/can be held responsible in any way

That's the whole point. The whole point is to bypass any legal limitations.

https://youtu.be/UT5MY3C86bk?t=76

Each dollar comes with serial numbers btw, let's not just pretend it's just numbers with zero significance. You want real money.

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People keep looking at opium through the cultural lens of US drug policy.

1) Opium production is not, and never has been illegal in Afghanistan. Not in over 2,000 years.

2) The US never had to "aid and abet" opium production in Afghanistan. That's like saying you have to "aid and abet" wheat and corn in Kansas, or potato production in Idaho. And the only effect any eradication efforts in Afghanistan had was higher streets prices for heroin in Paris and Amsterdam.

Meanwhile the entire world is 900 tons short of pharmaceutical-grade, opium-based prescription painkillers for pain control every year. Which means that my mother-in-law who was dying of stage 4 cancer (meaning she's going to fucking die and she isn't ever going to get better) can't get enough opium-based prescription painkillers to ease her pain enough to make her last days on earth not be a fucking continuous misery, but if I went down to Brownsville with cash, I would be able buy as much Mexican heroin as I could afford on the street.

Do you know where 50% of the worlds pharmaceutical grade opium, for prescription painkillers comes from? Because you will never guess.

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shocked pikachu

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Who cares? Why do young white people take heroin in the first place? Address that issue, and opium in Afghanistan is the even more irrelevant than it already is.

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Exactly as planned

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There is nothing wrong with opium and it's derogates. Problems arise when some motherfuckers use it to produce some synthetic shit that makes people sick beyond repair. Also these fucking dealers that add junk to increase weight are scam of the earth.

Natural opium should be available at your local pharmacy.

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Better than phentynol who gives a fuck what the Taliban does.

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nice jewish narrative you got there.

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