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Exactly as I said it would be.

And to all the numerous idiots that didn't have any fucking first hand knowledge of these fuckers, that kept insisting that "The taliban will outlaw opium production!" and "Opium production will go down under the taliban after the US leaves!"?

I know those fuckers and I fucking told you so. Suck it.

For the idiots that see everything as a jewish plot, opium was being grown in those same fields 2,200 years ago when Cyrus blew through there from Persia, and were still in operation when Alexander came through on his way to India 200 years later.

I spent 17 years in Afghanistan. I know those people. The taliban are not some monolithic block. They are a loose confederation of competing tribal interests. Think "The Sopranos" but in pakols. They are like any other human being. They want things. Things that can be only be bought for money. Opium is the only product they have that is highly marketable. I have seen them kill each other over market share just like any other tribal gangs over who gets what cut of the drug profits. I've seen taliban commanders begging their men not to walk away during the opium harvest season, because they could make 2-3 times per day harvesting opium as they can toting an AK as a taliban foot soldier (Yes. They get paid to fight. What? You thought they were doing it for free? Because "Muh Izlam!"? snerk).

An Afghan border guard captain, working on the Iranian border, makes about $4,000 USD per day just on the "excise taxes" he makes per kilo going out. That's more than the POTUS. Nobody just walks away from that kind of money.

Now consider their costs. They are landlocked. No ports. Everything comes in from surrounding countries who are all in competition with each other to see how much they milk they can get out of the cow. Every consumer good gets "taxed" multiple times on it's way to Kabul. So they are being constantly fucked by everybody. So that, to give an example, by the time a diesel Toyota Hilux truck gets to Kabul, it will cost about $80,000 USD.

Anyone who thought that the taliban were going to just stop producing the one thing that they can trade for cash because "Muh, izlam." is guilty of wishful thinking of the worst sort. And anyone who thought that the opium trade in Afghanistan was a jewish/Mossad/CIA/us.gov plot that suddenly sprang into existence in 1980 is a baby duck who thinks history just started today.

And guess what? 2,000 years from now the descendants of those same people will still be growing opium in the same fields. Who are you going to blame it on then? And if your opinion on the matter has been formed by what you read on the internet, not from first-hand experience, do yourself a favor and keep it to yourself. "It is far better to remain silent and be suspected of being a fool..."

*Exactly* as I said it would be. And to all the numerous idiots that didn't have any fucking first hand knowledge of these fuckers, that kept insisting that "The taliban will outlaw opium production!" and "Opium production will go down under the taliban after the US leaves!"? I know those fuckers and I fucking told you so. Suck it. For the idiots that see everything as a jewish plot, opium was being grown in those same fields 2,200 years ago when Cyrus blew through there from Persia, and were still in operation when Alexander came through on his way to India 200 years later. I spent 17 years in Afghanistan. I know those people. The taliban are not some monolithic block. They are a loose confederation of competing tribal interests. Think "The Sopranos" but in pakols. They are like any other human being. They want things. Things that can be only be bought for money. Opium is the only product they have that is highly marketable. I have seen them kill each other over market share just like any other tribal gangs over who gets what cut of the drug profits. I've seen taliban commanders begging their men not to walk away during the opium harvest season, because they could make 2-3 times per day harvesting opium as they can toting an AK as a taliban foot soldier (Yes. They get paid to fight. What? You thought they were doing it for free? Because "Muh Izlam!"? snerk). An Afghan border guard captain, working on the Iranian border, makes about $4,000 USD *per day* just on the "excise taxes" he makes per kilo going out. That's more than the POTUS. Nobody just walks away from that kind of money. Now consider their costs. They are landlocked. No ports. Everything comes in from surrounding countries who are all in competition with each other to see how much they milk they can get out of the cow. Every consumer good gets "taxed" multiple times on it's way to Kabul. So they are being constantly fucked by everybody. So that, to give an example, by the time a diesel Toyota Hilux truck gets to Kabul, it will cost about $80,000 USD. Anyone who thought that the taliban were going to just stop producing the one thing that they can trade for cash because "Muh, izlam." is guilty of wishful thinking of the worst sort. And anyone who thought that the opium trade in Afghanistan was a jewish/Mossad/CIA/us.gov plot that suddenly sprang into existence in 1980 is a baby duck who thinks history just started today. And guess what? 2,000 years from now the descendants of those same people will *still* be growing opium in the same fields. Who are you going to blame it on then? And if your opinion on the matter has been formed by what you read on the internet, not from first-hand experience, do yourself a favor and keep it to yourself. "It is far better to remain silent and be suspected of being a fool..."

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The US military was protecting opium fields out there. I mean, you can say whatever you want but the US was aiding and abetting the manufacture and production of poppy in Afghanistan. For what reason, I don't know. I suspect it had to do with the pharmaceutical industry. Now that Afghanistan controls its own distribution again, of course there will be a rise in production as they explore revitalizing Chinese markets.

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For what reason, I don't know.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio/B#Funding

Funding appears to be via the normal deep state methods; Edmonds points to the international drugs trade as a key role in funding black ops such as Operation Gladio/B. She notes that in 2001, without providing any evidence that the country was in any way involved, the US invaded the world's largest producer of opium, Afghanistan. She claims that the main areas of Gladio B money laundering are Cyprus, Malta and Dubai.[20]

A huge upswing in opium production after the unprovoked US invasion of the country following 9/11. Opium production has greatly increased since the US lead invasion. As with Gary Webb's well documented case that the CIA was heavily involved in cocaine trafficking, the commercially-controlled media has refused to show much interest in the evidence.[21][22]

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I keep wondering about the sanity of people who will claim that the us.gov needs the opium trade to fund fill in the blank but then will turn right around and in the very next breath decry the same government for running it's money printing presses wide open 24/7 in order to fund fill in the blank.

Which is it? Why would anyone with a money printing press in the basement need to have anything else?

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Which is it? Why would anyone with a money printing press in the basement need to have anything else?

Accountability.

You see, there are much more hassles and risks involved, political or otherwise, when the money comes one way or the other from the .gov budget; it comes with rules and laws attached to it, it leaves a paper trail, somewhere

With so called "black budgets", ie money that doesn't come from .gov budget, there are no strings attached, you can hire terrorists to do terrorist stuffs, give into all sorts of not only illegal but outright criminal activities, without political liabilities. It's just baddies doing bad things and no one is officially involved/can be held responsible in any way

That's the whole point. The whole point is to bypass any legal limitations.

https://youtu.be/UT5MY3C86bk?t=76

Each dollar comes with serial numbers btw, let's not just pretend it's just numbers with zero significance. You want real money.

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People keep looking at opium through the cultural lens of US drug policy.

1) Opium production is not, and never has been illegal in Afghanistan. Not in over 2,000 years.

2) The US never had to "aid and abet" opium production in Afghanistan. That's like saying you have to "aid and abet" wheat and corn in Kansas, or potato production in Idaho. And the only effect any eradication efforts in Afghanistan had was higher streets prices for heroin in Paris and Amsterdam.

Meanwhile the entire world is 900 tons short of pharmaceutical-grade, opium-based prescription painkillers for pain control every year. Which means that my mother-in-law who was dying of stage 4 cancer (meaning she's going to fucking die and she isn't ever going to get better) can't get enough opium-based prescription painkillers to ease her pain enough to make her last days on earth not be a fucking continuous misery, but if I went down to Brownsville with cash, I would be able buy as much Mexican heroin as I could afford on the street.

Do you know where 50% of the worlds pharmaceutical grade opium, for prescription painkillers comes from? Because you will never guess.