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So what do we do? Fight?

We can't do that unless we organize.

So organize? Can't do that here, we get banned and our comments removed (understand that this site has to do that in order to stay up).

So we go somewhere else, like where?

We got places like tor, freenet, i2p, and matrix, some people are saying telegram.

Okay, but we got problems.

These places are hosted by jews and their pets.

Not a problem, as the entire internet is also hosted by these pricks, and we are still posting here, anyway, at least on these alternative networks it's harder to find us.

The real problem is that any place on these networks is going to get flooded with things like cp and drug traders. Every deepweb place has become positively overflowing with child abuse material and drug marketers.

Moderation doesn't help at all, its been tried, but on a derpweb platform it's gimped to the point of near uselessness, the only thing that works is a strong and active and most importantly large userbase of people with other interests than these things in order to shift the site culture direction in another path. This worked fine neinchan before it died (not down, just inactive, can be revived by more users).

Another practical problem, finding the places you want to be.

If you think Google is biased, you've not seen the darkweb, every resource that is used to find sites off the main internet is dominated by people who try their best to keep you from finding far right friendly sites. Even resources that lead you to illegal porn and drugs are doing this.

Communist sites, however, are easily found through Amy resource, you look for deeper sites with a political discussion angle, and you will see a lot of antifa style "anarchists".

However, I merely said that far right was "hard" to find, as in "difficult" and not "impossible".

These places are overflowing with feds and they will do whatever they can to find you and fuck you up.

Even just being found to have looked at these sites us now being considered valid grounds for getting party anger as a "domestic terrorist", you need to know what you are doing in order to stay safe.

Even then, any pkan that is made will be seen by the feds, and they will use any dirty trick they can to shut it down, luckily we had a similar experience with the game of "capture the flag" between 4chan and Shia LaBeouf, we know how to deal with this eventuality.

There's so the fact that we'd want pushback from the feds on some of our plans

Security concerns, image boards are hard to run on the deepweb due to how much information is stored in files like images, its often hard to find and scrub, but this Metadata can lead the feds back to your computer.

Concerns like this are all over the deepweb, things like your writing style, the time of your posting habits, the Deepweb sites you visited, usernames and passwords, especially cross-referenced with other things, especially off the deepweb, the size of your monitor screen, the time you keep a tab or window open, are all worth keeping in mind. There's more too.

Deepweb opportunities

Every set of new risks and costs can come with a reward the makes it worthwhile.

In this case the rewards for these risks are plentiful. Deepweb Hacking forums are wonderful, as are deelweb archives, both are run by leftists, but designed such that anyone can find what they want there.

Hackers off the internet give as little identifying info as possible, including details of their projects that reveal their political affiliation. Archives are designed such that whenever anyone puts anything in, its impossible to get rid of it without erasing the whole archive, this is also by design, and is also a security feature. There's more, of course, the drug markets also have guns and other weapons for sale on them. Keep in mind that any sort of business done on the deepweb is not safe at all.

Unrelated to the deepweb stuff but I think a good means of countering is the creation of a counter culture or the domination of an existing subculture. Where someone can indirectly broadcast their political alignment by things like taste in clothes, music, activities, etc.

Imagine we all go out in scary gas masks, blaring some edgy sounding rebellion stirring music, and just generally standing out. Imagine this becoming popular among kids.

I feel like I just described cybergoths and now i recall how cringe they were. But we might be able to take them and make them not cringe.

Perception is easy to change when pressure is applied to the right psychological quirks of the average human mind.

Anything can acquire new meaning and significance to people under the right circumstances.

So what do we do? Fight? We can't do that unless we organize. So organize? Can't do that here, we get banned and our comments removed (understand that this site has to do that in order to stay up). So we go somewhere else, like where? We got places like tor, freenet, i2p, and matrix, some people are saying telegram. Okay, but we got problems. >These places are hosted by jews and their pets. Not a problem, as the entire internet is also hosted by these pricks, and we are still posting here, anyway, at least on these alternative networks it's harder to find us. >The real problem is that any place on these networks is going to get flooded with things like cp and drug traders. Every deepweb place has become positively overflowing with child abuse material and drug marketers. Moderation doesn't help at all, its been tried, but on a derpweb platform it's gimped to the point of near uselessness, the only thing that works is a strong and active and most importantly large userbase of people with other interests than these things in order to shift the site culture direction in another path. This worked fine neinchan before it died (not down, just inactive, can be revived by more users). >Another practical problem, finding the places you want to be. If you think Google is biased, you've not seen the darkweb, every resource that is used to find sites off the main internet is dominated by people who try their best to keep you from finding far right friendly sites. Even resources that lead you to illegal porn and drugs are doing this. Communist sites, however, are easily found through Amy resource, you look for deeper sites with a political discussion angle, and you will see a lot of antifa style "anarchists". However, I merely said that far right was "hard" to find, as in "difficult" and not "impossible". >These places are overflowing with feds and they will do whatever they can to find you and fuck you up. Even just being found to have looked at these sites us now being considered valid grounds for getting party anger as a "domestic terrorist", you need to know what you are doing in order to stay safe. Even then, any pkan that is made will be seen by the feds, and they will use any dirty trick they can to shut it down, luckily we had a similar experience with the game of "capture the flag" between 4chan and Shia LaBeouf, we know how to deal with this eventuality. There's so the fact that we'd want pushback from the feds on some of our plans >Security concerns, image boards are hard to run on the deepweb due to how much information is stored in files like images, its often hard to find and scrub, but this Metadata can lead the feds back to your computer. Concerns like this are all over the deepweb, things like your writing style, the time of your posting habits, the Deepweb sites you visited, usernames and passwords, especially cross-referenced with other things, especially off the deepweb, the size of your monitor screen, the time you keep a tab or window open, are all worth keeping in mind. There's more too. >Deepweb opportunities Every set of new risks and costs can come with a reward the makes it worthwhile. In this case the rewards for these risks are plentiful. Deepweb Hacking forums are wonderful, as are deelweb archives, both are run by leftists, but designed such that anyone can find what they want there. Hackers off the internet give as little identifying info as possible, including details of their projects that reveal their political affiliation. Archives are designed such that whenever anyone puts anything in, its impossible to get rid of it without erasing the whole archive, this is also by design, and is also a security feature. There's more, of course, the drug markets also have guns and other weapons for sale on them. Keep in mind that any sort of business done on the deepweb is not safe at all. >Unrelated to the deepweb stuff but I think a good means of countering is the creation of a counter culture or the domination of an existing subculture. Where someone can indirectly broadcast their political alignment by things like taste in clothes, music, activities, etc. Imagine we all go out in scary gas masks, blaring some edgy sounding rebellion stirring music, and just generally standing out. Imagine this becoming popular among kids. I feel like I just described cybergoths and now i recall how cringe they were. But we might be able to take them and make them not cringe. Perception is easy to change when pressure is applied to the right psychological quirks of the average human mind. Anything can acquire new meaning and significance to people under the right circumstances.

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[–] [deleted] 3 pts

Don't care, his post was absolutely correct. We are on a civil war.

Also, he's not an asshole, we disagree on one thing and he blocked me over it, big deal.

He's not a bad guy, and he isn't stupid, I in no way endorse any kind of negative feelings towards him.

Getcynical is soneone who I've cone to respect over the time I've seen his posts. He's a decent sort.

Too bad things got bad between us.

I was a bit of a prick to him, and if he can see this I want to apologize.

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Never apologize, it only emboldens your enemy. Seek and destroy.

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Never apologize, it only emboldens your enemy. Seek and destroy.

I'm not typically like that. In general though Anus_Expander shekelstein is correct.

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That's HERR Shekelstein to you, goy

Getcynical is not my enemy and I genuinely feel that I should apologize in this situation.