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I've seen time and time again people who claim that vaccines are dangerous and masks don't work at all.

Let me give you an example of one "debate" I had with some retarded bitch on Facebook.

Her: posts an article about someone having an adverse reaction to a vaccine

Me: how many people have had adverse reactions to vaccines?

Her: goes off on an emotional tirade about anti-vaxxer bullshit

Me: no I was genuinely asking, what are the numbers of adverse reactions?

Her: oh sorry, well we don't have the numbers because they aren't available, but I think it will be worse than COVID.

This is very typical for anti-vaxxers in general. You are forming opinions based on literally no data. You claim that the government is hiding this data, or skewing it, or whatever, but you don't actually have any numbers to back up your beliefs. All you have is one article from a conspiracy blog.

Even if the numbers in regards to COVID deaths are a lie, at least people who believe COVID is a problem have SOMETHING to back up their claims. Anti vaxxers literally have nothing.

Here's another one, one of these JJ vaccines apparently caused 6 adverse blood clot reactions. Guess how many of these were actually administered? 6.8 million. So out of 6.8 million people, you had 6 adverse reactions. That's less than 1 in a million. Thats way less than the 1% of deaths caused by COVID (something even COVID deniers agree on).

I didn't really make this thread to have more "meaningful discussions" about this, because ultimately, you can't convince a conspiracy theorist that they are wrong, no matter how many times you point out flaws in their logic. I just wanted to say that if you fall in the category of denying something that is even semi-established by the scientific community, and you have virtually no evidence for you claims, then you are a stone retard who should either meditate to clear your mind or consider offing yourself.

Have a nice day.

I've seen time and time again people who claim that vaccines are dangerous and masks don't work at all. Let me give you an example of one "debate" I had with some retarded bitch on Facebook. Her: posts an article about someone having an adverse reaction to a vaccine Me: how many people have had adverse reactions to vaccines? Her: *goes off on an emotional tirade about anti-vaxxer bullshit* Me: no I was genuinely asking, what are the numbers of adverse reactions? Her: oh sorry, well we don't have the numbers because they aren't available, but I think it will be worse than COVID. This is very typical for anti-vaxxers in general. You are forming opinions based on literally no data. You claim that the government is hiding this data, or skewing it, or whatever, but you don't actually have any numbers to back up your beliefs. All you have is one article from a conspiracy blog. Even if the numbers in regards to COVID deaths are a lie, at least people who believe COVID is a problem have SOMETHING to back up their claims. Anti vaxxers literally have nothing. Here's another one, one of these JJ vaccines apparently caused 6 adverse blood clot reactions. Guess how many of these were actually administered? 6.8 million. So out of 6.8 million people, you had 6 adverse reactions. That's less than 1 in a million. Thats way less than the 1% of deaths caused by COVID (something even COVID deniers agree on). I didn't really make this thread to have more "meaningful discussions" about this, because ultimately, you can't convince a conspiracy theorist that they are wrong, no matter how many times you point out flaws in their logic. I just wanted to say that if you fall in the category of denying something that is even semi-established by the scientific community, and you have virtually no evidence for you claims, then you are a stone retard who should either meditate to clear your mind or consider offing yourself. Have a nice day.

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[–] • -2 pt

There are very simple answers to your questions you just refuse to acknowledge.

There is a reason surgeons, contraction workers, and soldiers wear masks.

If you limit access to something, that reduces the transmission of it.

This isn't fuckin rocket science, dude.

As for the mRNA vaccines, you just don't understand how they work. Read the actual scientific literature which describes the mechanisms at play. The way your immune system works is it creates proteins to fight certain viruses once I learns about them. All the mRNA vaccine does is stimulate this response without having to actually expose your body to the disease itself.

Also there is a chance that you can contract something even after being vaccinated. You can get the same flu twice, even without ever being vaccinated. It is a low chance, but it's there. You just take shit to an absurd level when they say "you might still get COVID after vaccination" to imply that this wouldn't be an incredibly low probability.

[–] • 6 pts

So no, you don't have the evidence for your claims. Just simple answers and claims that I don't understand something. I've read about the technology behind mRNA and I think you have to be ignorant to get it injected in you for covid. Especially if you are otherwise healthy. They have said at best it prevents hospitalization, despite many anecdotes of post jab hospitalization. They have also said 80% of people will experience no symptoms from the wild virus. I truly believe you are just a shill. Get a better job, dude

[–] • 0 pt

they wear them for spitting and sweat. THATS IT

[–] • 0 pt

Yes I'm sure insulators only wear masks for spit and sweat, and not the airborne debris or anything.