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I've seen time and time again people who claim that vaccines are dangerous and masks don't work at all.

Let me give you an example of one "debate" I had with some retarded bitch on Facebook.

Her: posts an article about someone having an adverse reaction to a vaccine

Me: how many people have had adverse reactions to vaccines?

Her: goes off on an emotional tirade about anti-vaxxer bullshit

Me: no I was genuinely asking, what are the numbers of adverse reactions?

Her: oh sorry, well we don't have the numbers because they aren't available, but I think it will be worse than COVID.

This is very typical for anti-vaxxers in general. You are forming opinions based on literally no data. You claim that the government is hiding this data, or skewing it, or whatever, but you don't actually have any numbers to back up your beliefs. All you have is one article from a conspiracy blog.

Even if the numbers in regards to COVID deaths are a lie, at least people who believe COVID is a problem have SOMETHING to back up their claims. Anti vaxxers literally have nothing.

Here's another one, one of these JJ vaccines apparently caused 6 adverse blood clot reactions. Guess how many of these were actually administered? 6.8 million. So out of 6.8 million people, you had 6 adverse reactions. That's less than 1 in a million. Thats way less than the 1% of deaths caused by COVID (something even COVID deniers agree on).

I didn't really make this thread to have more "meaningful discussions" about this, because ultimately, you can't convince a conspiracy theorist that they are wrong, no matter how many times you point out flaws in their logic. I just wanted to say that if you fall in the category of denying something that is even semi-established by the scientific community, and you have virtually no evidence for you claims, then you are a stone retard who should either meditate to clear your mind or consider offing yourself.

Have a nice day.

I've seen time and time again people who claim that vaccines are dangerous and masks don't work at all. Let me give you an example of one "debate" I had with some retarded bitch on Facebook. Her: posts an article about someone having an adverse reaction to a vaccine Me: how many people have had adverse reactions to vaccines? Her: *goes off on an emotional tirade about anti-vaxxer bullshit* Me: no I was genuinely asking, what are the numbers of adverse reactions? Her: oh sorry, well we don't have the numbers because they aren't available, but I think it will be worse than COVID. This is very typical for anti-vaxxers in general. You are forming opinions based on literally no data. You claim that the government is hiding this data, or skewing it, or whatever, but you don't actually have any numbers to back up your beliefs. All you have is one article from a conspiracy blog. Even if the numbers in regards to COVID deaths are a lie, at least people who believe COVID is a problem have SOMETHING to back up their claims. Anti vaxxers literally have nothing. Here's another one, one of these JJ vaccines apparently caused 6 adverse blood clot reactions. Guess how many of these were actually administered? 6.8 million. So out of 6.8 million people, you had 6 adverse reactions. That's less than 1 in a million. Thats way less than the 1% of deaths caused by COVID (something even COVID deniers agree on). I didn't really make this thread to have more "meaningful discussions" about this, because ultimately, you can't convince a conspiracy theorist that they are wrong, no matter how many times you point out flaws in their logic. I just wanted to say that if you fall in the category of denying something that is even semi-established by the scientific community, and you have virtually no evidence for you claims, then you are a stone retard who should either meditate to clear your mind or consider offing yourself. Have a nice day.

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[–] [deleted] 7 pts

the blue masks cant filter a virus, cloth is like a window screen. Plus they do not seal correctly as anyone who wear glasses. this should be a insult to your intelligence. all this can be found in studies. influenza is larger than corona virus, cdc said everything the recommended is ineffective for it.

virus can enter thru your ears and eyes

you know this is a tired topic, really at this point there is no need for me to waste my time debating it. do your own fucking research

[–] -3 pt

Yeah no shit, because of the fluid from your eyes. A basic cloth mask protects against transmission via fluids, not smaller particles. You just destroyed your own argument by admitting that covid can be transferred via teardrops but masks are useless, when surgical masks are specifically designed to stop contamination via fluids only.

Of course a basic mask doesn't stop airborne pathogens, but to say that an N95 mask doesn't is ludicrous. Why would armies bother manufacturing gas masks in wartimes if certain masks didn't stop airborne pathogens? Every single logical argument that can be made destroys you, which is why I said debating with anti-maskers is pointless.

Ultimately you're retarded if you think anyone with half a brain will fall for this kind of word play, where you make truncated comparisons that only support your arguments up until someone thinks more reasonably than a 4 year old.

I mean yeah, seatbelts are useless, because you can still die in a car accident while wearing one, amiright?

what happens when you take it off numb nuts, it survive after 5 days.

believe what you want, it not worth my time with you.