The collapse happened from the 1970s gold window closing (or more likely 1940s with bretton woods), to 2020. 50-80 years. It just happened so slowly, no one noticed. The future we doomsay is the past and plan that has already come to rotten fruition. If you doubt it, look around you, and tell me america has not already collapsed. We're living in a dystopia. This isnt "the apocalypse to come." This is the post-apocalypse. All thats left is the waiting for the troops in the street and cannibalism to start. And that wont happen in a day either. it'll happen over one to two generations. Say 20-40 years. Probably even sooner than that. The secret of the new normal is that its not one and done. It's a continual establishment and degredation of everything we hold sacred, a continual creation of ever more new normals, as stepping stones to the next debasement, the next demoralization. And where do those steps descend to? Into the bottomless pit. Into hell. So slowly we were all standing around waiting for revelations and wondering when we'd hear the trumpets, and see the signs. Look around you: The signs are everywhere. We're already there. America is dead. America is a corpse zionist bankers puppet around, as wallstreeters and DC types crawl around consuming its rotten flesh, crawling through her underbelly like worms feasting in a gutter full of blood. There is no America. We are all thats left of the dream which twinkled in the eyes of our rogueish forefathers so many centuries ago. It is time for new dreams to be dreamed and new forefathers to dream them, that the body may die, but the spirit of america yet live and be renewed. Otherwise the world is lost to murderous bankers and bolsheviks and your families will grow up slaves to arrogant and rapacious vermin. It cannot be allowed to happen. Keep the fire burning, no matter what it may cost you. We are all america has now.