>if you secede you will be playing in to their hands because china and russia will be the prime beneficiaries of this break up They're already the prime beneficiaries of the US turning into an Israeli colony. >besides, there's little to no factories in the south How many factories are left in the north? >since i bet 10,000 bucks that i dont have that the "new country" would be not recognized by other nations (if succeeds that is) because it will be also be crushed by the north because they would have better weaponry and more capital to employ mercenaries and the like You mean like how vietnam went?