> I feel like you are not doing your due diligence here to place yourself in a differing philosophical framework. Okay, let's hear your argument. > Sure if you remove all theological progression maybe people default to worshiping the ghost of grandma or whatever else. "Theological progression" doesn't matter, because there's no good reason to assume, that god exists, so every conclusion based upon the premise of god's existence is inherently flawed. If people default to worshiping grandmas ghost, that by itself already is a better reason to worship grannie's ghost than all of theology can provide. > Monotheism is what that refinement would look like. Then you argue, that monotheism is more refined. This to refinement: Of course what you really mean to say is, that your iteration of worshiping the kike-god is more refined, and not monotheism in general, as there are other monotheistic religions. Tengrism for example, which was the religion of the mongol upper-class when ghenghis khan was still around. With tengri being pretty much identical to Dyeus, one of the original indoeuropean gods - e.g. far older than jehova - which later developed into Zeus, Jupiter, Wotan, and so on. With this in mind, one would assume, that the natural progression is from monotheism to polytheism, e.g. that in reality refinery leads from monotheism to polytheism, and not the other way around. As a matter of fact, having a couple of gods compete against each other sounds more like the process of refinement, than forever cucking to some monolithic all-perfect over-being... Of course it doesn't matter one way or the other, because even if god or gods would exist, they'd be acting in such a manner, that their existence isn't detectable, e.g. they're acting as if they wouldn't exist, and refinement of an either wrong or meaningless belief must be wrong or meaningless by itself. But of course you're not arguing for the truthfulness of christianity, but for it's practical use. You know, even if jehova doesn't exist, believing in him leads you on a good path. So let's see on which path believing in jehova has led people. Let's talk a bit about Jehova, the jewish god, which was first created by a desert-people, which during the past several thousand years pretty much everybody hated for being obnoxious parasites that are known for weaseling into position of power. What's his story? I'd say, that he started out as the local god, of some inconsequentially small desert-tribe. Even 2000 years ago, when the kikes were beaten by the romans, they were a rather disliked minority on their own lands, and were just about to leave the stages of history as one of history's many unsuccessful attempts of creation. But then the kikes came up with a new idea. A new religion, not for their own downtrodden ethnicity, but this time for the masses of the whole world. They kept their desert-god as the only one which exists, so peace with all the other state- and tribal gods was impossible, and their newly created religion therefore was impossible to assimilate, and aimed the whole thing at the lowest dregs of society. God loves the meek, god loves the weak, the last will be first, god loves beggars more than he loves rich people, and so on and on. Everyone is god's child. The basic principle of their new invention is: "No matter where you are in life, come to us, and you'll enter paradise" to draw in the many losers - "If you don't be with the losers, god hates you, and you'll go to hell" to make the losers feel superior BECAUSE of their inferiority and make them resent what's superior, and "There is only one god" to make cohabitation and competition with any other set of beliefs impossible. What the kikes did was to create a religion that weaponized the scum of the earth against the aristocracy. They incited the many weaklings against the few strong, the many unsuccessful against the few of merit. This happened in large parts via lies and mass-hysteria. You know, this thing with the "whore of babylon" is clearly aimed at rome, and is one of the most hysterical pieces of hate-propaganda ever created, and the story with persecution of christians in the roman empire is a oppression-narrative with little truth to it. Very few christians were killed, and they were a unruly underclass-sect that tried to upset the traditional order, so it's normal for those kinds of people to get killed at a higher rate than the rest. However, in the end this sect unfortunately grew strong enough to get into power, and took over the roman state. I assume, that after seeing vargs video, you'll agree, that what happened next was christianity used it's power over a newly "conquered" totalitarian state to put itself onto the rest of the world via genocidal means. And that is the true beginning of christianity as we know it. Kikes made up a cult that weaponized the dregs of society against the traditional order, took power, and then used the state to commit a genocide against anyone who wouldn't join their cult. From there on, the kikes - I'm saying this because the upper strata of the early christians were ethnic kikes - used their power to "convert" other rulers by bribery, war, or threat thereof, and used these rulers to "convert" their populaces, again usually with totalitarian to genocidal means, and/or by weaponizing the christianized scum against the aristocracy, in case they weren't thorough enough. Sounds much like what the kikes are trying to do with niggers, doesn't it? Or what the kikes did during the russian revolution and the creation of the soviet union. Or the chinese cultural revolution. Also a little like "exporting democracy", but even less benevolent I'd argue. > People have life changing experiences, I couldn't care less about people's experiences. I've taken high doses of psychedelics, and as the result of that I've been a pig whose brain got hit by a bolt on it's way into the slaughtering cabinet, I've been god, and I've even talked to god. Having such experiences is how it feels when the brain malfunctions, and people whose brain malfunctions even without the aid of drugs aren't spiritual leaders but lunatics, which usually has a strong genetic component, and would be removed from the genepool under natural conditions. > And they have no way of conceptualizing that they're part of something bigger, and that bigger something is part of something else, and something bigger beyond that as well. Nature tends to be organized as a [fractal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal). Okay. So what? How else should it be? I mean, seriously, how else COULD it be, given we're staying under the same physical and mathematical principles that are currently in charge of running the world? You're sliding into mysticism, and you literally sound like some teenager talking about his transcendental experience after eating a few magic mushrooms while listening to shitty music. The best argument for god I've heard so far came from some muslim fundamentalist. It was like "Allah has struck the infidels with insanity. Behold, their booty willingly comes to us, so that their children will suck our cocks, and their men don't defend them, but invite us into their house and pay us their money". Something along those lines. How else could you explain this sudden collective insanity without being a intentional act of a higher being. And this brings us to modernity, which, to me, looks like the logical conclusion of christian values. Kikes at the top rule over a huge herd of genetically inferior goyim, that were made inferior by their religion, which has fulfilled it's purpose a long time ago, and has already been replaced by something more appropriate to the times, e.g. a huge state, that continues christianity's rebellion against nature, continues breeding man into a more and more inferior being, and so on. I see christianity as a breeding-program towards inferiority. With every human being a child of god, it became impossible to weed out what's inferior. You know, before christianity came, cretin children were killed, as were children that resulted when someone just relieved himself into some cumbucket. Since christianity all those unwanted children of bodily relief, stupidity, and shame, survive, and believe me, those aren't the best. And with christianity you have charity, alms- and stuff like that. And with those things you prevent those, that should have been but weren't killed as children, from dying as adults. And look what christianity does to africa - First it gave niggers access to medicine, modern agriculture, and so on, and helped the niggers to procreate far beyond the carrying capacity of their natural habitat, up to the point of driving the african megafauna close to extinction. Nature tried to correct this via famine, but christians send money and food, so that niggers now double every 25 years even in famine-struck regions. Nature tried to reduce their number via disease, and christians send them antibiotics, and even expensive aids-medication, because for them, niggers are children of god, and christians are ordered to be charitable. And of course racemixing is facilitated as well, because we're all gods children, so having niggers have a shit in your genepool is allright, and killing halfbreeds would be a sin. And from this point of view, what modern western states do, is just a continuation of christianity. "Everyone has a soul" became "All men are created equal" and "You just have to manage to become 18 years old, then your opinion is worth as much as the opinion of the literal overman". "Blessed be the poor" became the welfare state and the nigger-feeding in africa. And so on. A breeding program towards inferiority, that started 2000 years ago, and was dreamed up by kikes. > Do you honestly believe it would be easier to convert everyone to a National Socialist framework than a Christian framework? No. Actually I believe, that at least 95% of mankind only lives as the result of the total lack of quality-control for a very long period of time, and wouldn't be able to survive under natural conditions. Civilization promotes itself by promulgating inferior beings in great numbers, and letting them overrun those who haven't been bred into inferiority yet. However, civilization is going to end at some point, I hope soon, and then those who can't live under natural conditions will die a gruesome death. I hope, that the number of civilized beings doesn't reach 100% before that. Furthermore I see national socialism as part of civilization. Maybe it's better than democracy in so far, that it's more selective in who's receiving the aid of the breeding program. However, National Socialism still can't escape the necessity of being a breeding program towards inferiority in order to attract large numbers of followers. So even National Socialism breeds Untermenschen.