The gist is that the greentards think CO2- a byproduct of refining and burning- is a "greenhouse gas" that somehow rises above the stratosphere and fucks up the ozone layer. Something I find absurd as CO2 is denser than regular surface-level dry air, and certainly far more dense than any gases in the upper atmosphere. CO2 doesn't warm the planet; but it does make trees greener.
Exactly.
That's why they want to stop it, so nobody can grow their own food and will have to go crawling to the fucking government to get their rations.
CO2 is NOT NOW or EVER WAS a "greenhouse gas".
The whole "green" movement is COMPLETE BULLSHIT, always has been. The ONLY thing "green" about the "green" movement is MONEY.
Exactly, CO2 is NOT a "greenhouse gas"
wrong
stop reading political headlines telling you what to think, go read a chemistry book and work out what is happening
The ONLY thing "green" about the "green" movement is MONEY.
Do you know why the people on Easter Island died out? A useful corollary
The people on Easter Island died because most of their adult males were kidnaped into slavery by their own government, put to work in mines where they caught tuberculosis. If they survived long enough for the mine to be played out they were sent home to spread the disease.
They might have survived that if the Spaniards had left their arid-climate farms alone instead of forcing European style farming on them.
If you were implying that there was some sort of "chopping down all their trees", that wasn't it. The trees disappeared due to a pre-industrial climate shift. Easter Islanders were doing just fine for a long time after most of the trees were gone.
Gee, let me guess...."globull warming"?!?!
So what was alledgedly creating all the "greenhouse gases" when, and if, people ever lived on Easter Island? All those ancient SUV's?
Tool.
Because NOTHING can grow on FUCKING EASTER ISLAND because there is very little soil, Easter Island is mostly fucking VOLCANIC ROCK!!
You really are a fucking dumbass, aren't you?
CO2- [...] somehow rises above the stratosphere. Something I find absurd as CO2 is denser than regular surface-level dry air, and certainly far more dense than any gases in the upper atmosphere.
gas expands to fill the entire volume of a container, yes, cool that down to 0degK and add gravity and you might see some stratification. but in a system where CO2 is heated by the sun so it collides with other gas molecules and subject it to 140mph jetstreams, then no, it's going to mingle with every other gas up to around 80km high.
CO2 doesn't warm the planet;
correct, the sun does that. CO2 insulates the planet by blocking the reflected IR from flying off into space. That's why the moon is cold and the earth is hot, despite both being heated by the sun from the same distance.
greentards
if you don't know something, it's a bad look to call everyone else stupid
it does make trees greener
correct, and if we could recover all the wasted space that niggers take up we could probably grow lots more of them. But we don't. also adding half a trillion trees won't actually solve the problem https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2927/examining-the-viability-of-planting-trees-to-help-mitigate-climate-change/
but in a system where CO2 is heated by the sun so it collides with other gas molecules and subject it to 140mph jetstreams, then no, it's going to mingle with every other gas up to around 80km high.
Air has greater heat capacity than CO2, air density changes with conditions(temp/pressure) to a much greater extent than CO2, so it's unlikely to rise in the same manner that air does as it's density doesn't change much with temp/atmospheric pressure, neither will its buoyancy.
CO2 insulates the planet by blocking the reflected IR from flying off into space.
I'd argue that water vapor is just as insulating as CO2 if not more so, but no one bothers to curb humidity do they....
Air has greater heat capacity than CO2
air contains CO2? either way the reason why the density of CO2 is irrelevant here is known, for the same reason they don't tell you to put CO detectors on the floor.
I'd argue that water vapor is just as insulating as CO2 if not more so, but no one bothers to curb humidity do they....
For the reasonable observation is that you can't stop water evaporation, but you can reduce CO2 emissions, so let's try and fix the fixable first?
No one claims co2 insulates and warms the planet.
Don't act smart then say something dumb.
The gas that primarily insulates the planet. The actual greenhouse gas. Is water vapor.
No, they claim that co2 acts more like (sorry this subject is too technical for me so suck my interpretation) a catalyst that increases the impact of each solar ray.
And they replicated this in small scale experiments and extropulated the finding to the scale of a planet and left out other variables like feed back mechanism from co2 being so damned useful to life on earth.
Which is why global warming alarmism has always failed to become scientific theory (it ain't science without predictions becoming true).
Leave out variables and your equation is useless
No one claims co2 insulates and warms the planet. Don't act smart then say something dumb.
curious you think that is dumb, because that is exactly what they are saying... (well, the "CO2 insulates" bit anyway)
The gas that primarily insulates the planet. The actual greenhouse gas. Is water vapor.
(NASA water vapour accounts for about 50% of the absorption. Clouds 25%. Carbon dioxide 20%)
that is one of several gases that have a greenhouse effect, except that water vapour is self regulating, as soon as you accumulate enough of it it clumps together as a cloud and you get rain. Then the humidity drops
Conversely you can keep adding CO2 gas until we all die of heatstroke, there is a finite limit to the number of trees you could grow to counter this
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