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Notice how everyone wanted to believe they would be spared from hard times in America. Just as pre-tribulation believers want to believe they will be spared from hard times in the last years.

Then comes the disappointment and the falling away of people who had once been united by patriotism because Q was a false prophet who divided the movement. This is the "apostasy" of patriots.

Is the apostasy to come going to look very similar when many realize that their church preachers lied to them about a pre-tribulation rapture? Will many be divided and falling away because they were led on by the numerous false prophets who are in the churches today? In a moment everything they had staked their hope in is revealed to be false teaching?

Notice how everyone wanted to believe they would be spared from hard times in America. Just as pre-tribulation believers want to believe they will be spared from hard times in the last years. Then comes the disappointment and the falling away of people who had once been united by patriotism because Q was a false prophet who divided the movement. This is the "apostasy" of patriots. Is the apostasy to come going to look very similar when many realize that their church preachers lied to them about a pre-tribulation rapture? Will many be divided and falling away because they were led on by the numerous false prophets who are in the churches today? In a moment everything they had staked their hope in is revealed to be false teaching?

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I believe the words of Jesus.

John 17:3 - And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

God is the only true God according to Jesus. Jesus by divine inheritance has Gods divine nature/power/wisdom/authority. But He is not His Father nor does He hold His Fathers position.

The Fathers spirit, the Son was given, and after Christ returned to heaven and was glorified, He then sent that same spirit on the day of pentecost.

That is what the bible says devoid of any tradition of men.

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That's a cool drink of water in this godless wasteland.

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What is your interpretation of Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

And also Genesis 11:7 "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."

Coupled with Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters."

John 14:11 "Believe Me that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me; otherwise believe on account of the works themselves."

But rather than cherrypick one verse from John 14, it is essential to read all of John 14:7-31, to better understand Jesus' and the Holy Spirits' oneness with the Father.

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'Us' = Elohim

Of which the first is The Father = Demiurge = Saturn = Satan

[Satan is not 'evil'. The Hebrew Bible never describes Satan in terms the West traditionally has. On the contrary, Satan is described as an adversary (actually, formally The Accuser) and a judge of mankind. This is the connection. Saturn is the oldest, and wisest and keeper of the law. The Jews worshipped the Law-giver of the old covenant, or the Saturn component of YHWH, hence they are the synagogue of Satan. Recall Job, in which God makes a quasi-deal with Satan, who is Job's accuser and must make The Father's case before God's court - the Elohim.}

One key mistake most people make is to equate The Father = God. This is not the case. God is the tri-unity of Father, Son, and Spirit. In terms that most people can understand, it is the Spirit component of that trinity that has the most God-like character. But the one, True God is an ineffable and infinite darkness of pure potential, power and creativity which the Jews knew as Ain Soph, and which Christians understand as tripartite, and which is effectively the universal subjective mind of which yours is an image.

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I don't think you even understand your own theory. It's not scriptural. You need the Holy Spirit to straighten you out. Be blessed in the name of Jesus.

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Is it not 100% clear it is 2 beings speaking. Not 3?

Remember when Christ was being interrogated by the pharisees? And they wanted some testimony from witnesses?

John 8 records Christs conversation and who He called as witnesses.

>It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

>I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

The law allowed for a "3rd" witness to be called as well.

Yet Jesus did not call a 3rd "God".

He testified of Himself, and His Father. And thats it. 2.

2.

Again, 2. When the law allowed another. But there is no "other".

Jesus is the comforter. (in his "glorified" form). He told the apostles He must leave and be glorified, then He would send the comforter (again) unto them.

Its Him mate.

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You didn't bother reading the scripture I posted and refute it with scripture. The whole Bible testifies to there being a 3 in 1 God. Ask the Holy Spirit for wisdom and understanding. Your own knowledge will only make you more lost.

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no, you are making a mistake that is nothing new,actually is an heresy spouted by Sabelius

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabellianism

this is gnosticism

John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Colossians 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

1 Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

> 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.